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Prostitution vs adultery
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I’ll start a new thread this weekend. We haven’t examined this in a long time.
@The Revolting Man
I’m not going to engage in the minutiae of this topic. I don’t have the time to delve into it. I agree it’s important in reference to polygyny, but that gets lost in the verbal weeds of trying to win the argument. I think you need to emphasize this each time it comes up. WHY is this such a passionate point for you? WHY do you feel it to be so essential? I think that’s just as important.
The problem you run across with many folks is that they view the concepts of a biblical family holistically. After reading all of scripture, from beginning to end, what thought or idea would someone walk away with? Individual situations may be exceptions to a bigger rule. I know it sounds like a cop out or weak way of approaching scripture, but some may not require absolute formulas for the recipe, especially when much of this topic is lost to us by a cultural divide of millennia.
I’m not going to engage in the minutiae of this topic. I don’t have the time to delve into it. I agree it’s important in reference to polygyny, but that gets lost in the verbal weeds of trying to win the argument. I think you need to emphasize this each time it comes up. WHY is this such a passionate point for you? WHY do you feel it to be so essential? I think that’s just as important.
The problem you run across with many folks is that they view the concepts of a biblical family holistically. After reading all of scripture, from beginning to end, what thought or idea would someone walk away with? Individual situations may be exceptions to a bigger rule. I know it sounds like a cop out or weak way of approaching scripture, but some may not require absolute formulas for the recipe, especially when much of this topic is lost to us by a cultural divide of millennia.
For some reason I can’t see the text after the letter “A” but someone sent me this text:
The answer is that death undoes one flesh. Sinful sex brings the penalty of death. Death undoes the one flesh. Death is both spiritual and physical, the primary death being spiritual.
Sinful sex is like adding the thing you’re subtracting. You end up with nothing.
Sinful sex is like adding the thing you’re subtracting. You end up with nothing.
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I understand your logic, but it breaks down when I try to apply it to the topic at hand - sex with a prostitute.
So, we know sex with a prostitute makes you one flesh, as per scripture directly saying so. Running with your use of one flesh as equivalent to marriage, the next guy to sleep with that prostitute would be committing adultery against you, sex deserving death, so not one flesh if adultery is not one flesh. But scripture says sex with a prostitute is one flesh. Hang on, you weren't the first guy to sleep with her yourself...
So going with your logic, sex with a prostitute is simultaneously one flesh, and not one flesh. It doesn't work.
This shows that however clean the logic may sound, it has to be wrong.
I say sex always creates one flesh, and I think that is far more consistent with scripture. Because I can't think of a single verse that states someone can have sex yet not be one flesh, or that death undoes one flesh. This is something you have invented yourself and are adding to the Bible.
You are way over complicating this and I’m not sure why.
When God joined Adam and Eve they were one flesh. When Christ taught about divorce He juxtaposed it to one flesh. Paul said sex with a harlot made you one flesh.
All three things have to be true. They have to reconcile.
I have been getting sniped at for years over this, such as being accused of making things up and adding them to scripture, but I’m the only one who has an explain that only uses the words and concepts explicitly attached to marriage in scripture.
Everyone else has to add in covenants and intent and all of these things that aren’t in the text. It gets so bad that people rely on stories of rape to try and find some kind of straw to grasp at.
It’s fine if you disagree with me. But don’t insult me by saying I’m adding to scripture. I’m the only one who hasn’t added to scripture on this topic.
Sex is one flesh. We see that irrefutably in 1 Corinthians 6:16:
“Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her?For He says, “THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH.”
We know that divorce allows a woman to leave a one flesh relationship and seek another man. Matthew 19:3-6 is again irrefutable:
| 3 ¶ Some Pharisees came to fnJesus, testing Him and asking, “Is it lawful for a man to fndivorce his wife for any reason at all?” |
| 4 And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE, |
| 5 and said, ‘FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH’? |
| 6 “So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.” |