So an emancipated minor can also have marital relations with an adult that she is not legally married to????
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So good I had to share it on FB.Randomly came across this, and thought it was kinda funny.....sad though because it's true in a lot of ways.View attachment 1898
Yes, and that is pretty much universally true in the United States due to the Supreme Court's cohabitation decision in Lawrence v. Texas.
I'm not going to disagree with you, except for this bit here...
There is no correct form of anything in English, only convention and local dialect and whatever gets you past your English exams. That is the nature of a modern, dynamic, ever-changing language.
As my eldest daughter says, "English is three languages in a trenchcoat, that follows other languages into dark alleys and mugs them for disused vocabulary and grammar."
Ah, yes @Jeff Ray, except you stated that it was not plural as if that were a fact, so I stated that it was. The truth is obviously that it doesn't matter one bit!
I don't understand the complexities of US state-by-state law, but I'll comment on that from a New Zealand perspective. Here, the age of consent is 16, the earliest age of marriage (with a court order) is also 16, otherwise the marriage age is 18. Which means that when she's 15 and 364 days, if you sleep with her you go to jail (regardless of your age, we have no exception for people close in age, although it tends to only be actually prosecuted when there is an age gap of a couple of years or more, and someone actually complains). But from her 16th birthday you can sleep with her as much as you like (even if you're a creepy old man), but you can't actually commit to her in a legal marriage until she's 18. She's open to being used and dumped but not committed to. Once she's 18 you can do the honourable thing and actually commit to her - but she can also legally decide to become a prostitute at 18. It's all rather ridiculous and has little actual relevance to the welfare of the young woman.
For our purposes, given marriage licences are irrelevant when you're talking about multiple wives, the only age that really matters is the age of consent (16 over here, but basically 15-18 in most Western countries), and the father's approval. Both protect the welfare of the woman - the age of consent helps her avoid getting into anything before she's really ready to make that decision, and the father's approval ensures she doesn't end up with a creepy looking man over double her age (such as myself
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How does one define creepy? Apparently, looks do matter.
A Creeper: One who watches you with bad intentions in mind. Usually you are unaware but then have you had the feeling someone is watching? Are you living with closed blinds and doors locked?
Well then I don't know about whether Samuel LOOKS like a creeper, but I seriously doubt that he has bad intentions in mind.
A decision, I would hope one day we could overturn.
If you'll start a new thread on it, I'll tell you why I do not hope for it to be overturned.
Speaking of Amy Coney Barrett, if anyone in this group knows Sarah Palin, I sure would like a personal introduction. Before becoming famous as the Manchurian Candidate's running mate, she was the mayor of the small town my cousin lived in, but that was after I left Alaska, so I never got to meet her.
If I had bad intentions and was trying to attract a woman for unsavory purposes, I would try to look as attractive and safe as possible. Satan appears as an angel of light.
But as I have only positive intentions, and actually aren't even trying to actively attract another woman anyway, I can forget about appearances. If the result is 'creepy' and scares away most ladies that's ok, keeps life simple. Any woman who was scared of this wouldn't want to wake up beside me anyway:
Why on Earth are you grooming your moustache?
It’s better for a marriage when a man is into his prime (30+) and a woman is young (16+). The man has had time to learn many things in leadership and becomes a nurturing authority figure in place of what her father was to her. My husband is 21 years my senior, so I would know!
My post had nothing to do with anyone on this site . Your question struck a nerve of a recent 5 year experience. Sorry if you took it that way...
Presumably for the same reason you grow the hair on the top of your head so long, but shave your face:
So I can eat soup.
The hair on your head doesn't get into the soup bowl so there's no need to bother cutting it, correct?
Don't worry, I was the one that called myself "creepy", in jest. We're all just messing with each other. This is a "random comments" thread after all.
What hair on the top of my head are you talking about, @FollowingHim?
. . . and I was just messing with you about the moustache. I love that photo you shared, and I think you should use it as your avatar. It's much more vivacious. I was just thinking that you looked like you were letting everything else go, so why bother with the moustache -- but I hadn't considered soup!
I almost wrote this earlier, @Rebecca: it is a mistake inspired by postmodern feminism to make the blanket assumption that a young woman seeking an older man is proof of lack of esteem on her part and/or predatory tendencies on his part. (a) Not every young woman has had an exemplary father, so there is nothing pathological about such a young woman seeking someone who, as part of his love for her, will exhibit character traits she has missed. (b) Even when a young woman has had an exemplary father who nurtured and protected her, there is absolutely nothing shameful in her having the desire to continue to experience that.It’s better for a marriage when a man is into his prime (30+) and a woman is young (16+). The man has had time to learn many things in leadership and becomes a nurturing authority figure in place of what her father was to her. My husband is 21 years my senior, so I would know!
Our culture has succeeded in promoting misery with all of its do's and don't's. Massive amounts of loneliness and insufficient fulfillment. The New Puritanism is so inhuman that it forces those who knuckle under to it to seriously limit their opportunities for richly rewarding lives. Notwithstanding @FollowingHim's reverse self-advertisement above, getting older, while increasing the wrinkles, does not turn one into a creep for being available for a relationship with a younger woman. Older men are capable of keeping themselves in shape, and they certainly are much more likely to have learned much more about being proper protectors and leaders, not to mention about knowing how to properly provide both appreciation and pleasure.