Why would a percentage exist?
Common sense in those days was that a woman was in a family.
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Segregation between the sexes
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Common sense in those days was that a woman was in a family.
I understand that. I'm asking why things should never change? And if so, based on what scriptural premise? Because there are many women who would much prefer the right to live their lives as they chose as opposed to being forced into marriages and motherhood at young ages.To me that's equally as perverse.
If there was a reason for their creation, who has the right to change the order of things?
Choosing to live outside of created order is to live with the results.
Change is inevitable.
Some of those results were possibly needed. What's the purpose of mourning the loss of a particular time in history where only in our minds can we imagine that things would have been better, without ever having actually experienced it ourselves.
Sometimes persistence results in man becoming father.
Sometimes persistence results in man being arrested.
Leave it up to @MemeFan to look on the bright side of things.Sometimes persistence results in man being arrested.
Go ahead and ask the “Men can get pregnant too” crowd.
See how well it is working out for them.
Not all change is inevitable.
Not all change is safe or positive.
When I tried to find out how my parents got together, the only thing I got is from my mother: Father was very persistent.Sometimes persistence results in man being arrested.
I dug a little further into different cultures and areas last night. Boys and girls attend separate schools and worship areas. Overall, men and women are able to interact with one another in most public settings, including work environments. However, there are specific businesses which cater to women only and some that cater to men only as well. In some restaurants there are three separate sections for women, men, and families. I kind of like it. I'm curious what anyone thinks the downsides would be?
Hate to say but some men think that just because you communicated with him once or twice that you're interested and the next thing you know he's picked out a house, names for the kids, suggestions for vacations with the grandkids, and etc.
I tend to be somewhat unfiltered in my conversations and men will sometimes misread this for intimacy. The result is anymore I tend to avoid in-person conversations with men until I get to know them better and they get to know me better.
Especially in a plural setting. You speak with them once or twice, and they start stacking a claim to you.
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If there were women only and men only stores. I would have fun with it, but once it is seen as a moral issue rather than a privacy thing, then it can quickly become a problem.
Personally to me it sounds like a situation that would breed mistrust and oppression. (Which is extremely common in muslim societies where the women must not even be seen. (A lot of men who follow these laws are extremely mean to women (who are not related to them) though they claim to be moral, at least that has been my experience when meeting these kind of people. I haven't spoken to their wives, no one was allowed to, so I can't say about how they treat their wives...)
I think in a society where people are good this would be extremely tragic. No one watches "I Love Lucy" and feels like it is morally wrong for Lucy to talk to Fred alone. If we grew up in a society who taught that it was wrong for a man and a woman unrelated to be alone in the same room or speak alone to each other, then there are people who would watch and see those scenes and accuse Lucy or Fred of being evil, immoral and it would lead to persecution. We know their interactions were perfectly fine and normal and that to ban such conversations would actually damage relationships and breed distrust rather than fellow feeling, charity, and love.
Just apply it to the bible. If men and women were not allowed to be alone with or sometimes even speak to people who are not their relatives Christ would never have spoken to the woman at the well. Elijah would never have lived with that woman and saved her son. Widows would be much more greatly oppressed, especially if they had no real family.
At least that's my take on those sorts of rules
Personally to me it sounds like a situation that would breed mistrust and oppression. (Which is extremely common in muslim societies where the women must not even be seen. (A lot of men who follow these laws are extremely mean to women (who are not related to them) though they claim to be moral, at least that has been my experience when meeting these kind of people. I haven't spoken to their wives, no one was allowed to, so I can't say about how they treat their wives...)
I think in a society where people are good this would be extremely tragic. No one watches "I Love Lucy" and feels like it is morally wrong for Lucy to talk to Fred alone. If we grew up in a society who taught that it was wrong for a man and a woman unrelated to be alone in the same room or speak alone to each other, then there are people who would watch and see those scenes and accuse Lucy or Fred of being evil, immoral and it would lead to persecution. We know their interactions were perfectly fine and normal and that to ban such conversations would actually damage relationships and breed distrust rather than fellow feeling, charity, and love.
Just apply it to the bible. If men and women were not allowed to be alone with or sometimes even speak to people who are not their relatives Christ would never have spoken to the woman at the well. Elijah would never have lived with that woman and saved her son. Widows would be much more greatly oppressed, especially if they had no real family.
At least that's my take on those sorts of rules
It's true. all you have to do is say a friendly "Hello" sometimes. I think those men never passed the middle school phase of interaction with women. I got a love letter confession out of it once, and when I turned him down he told the whole school we were dating. When that was debunked he told the whole school that he was going to be my second relationship because the first ones never work out.
Oh my days that is downright awful and terrifying! In part I think this kind of thing depends on where you live. I know when I lived in Utah going to dances and work was perfectly safe, but when I moved to NC there was no safe place anymore. I did have male friends and having those friends was a protection in and of itself. They helped fend off bad men just by their presence and although they weren't good men, they had enough of a sense of wanting to keep me safe and far away from that sort of thing.
Oh I can see the value of segregation in those settings. I think family work and living with relatives is actually a good and healthy thing. At least that's what I learned when I lived in England. Everyone I knew was living with or working with their relatives and it was nicer and safer for them.
Actually I would be happy if there was a female only work setting, but if we lived in a better society I would not care either way.
I just don't think enough care is being taken to protect women. I know of women who have been sexually violated by men they thought they knew. This is not an uncommon thing. Unfortunately, it's a lot more common than people realize. In the cases I'm familiar with, the men got away with it. I can't recommend enough that a woman take great care in protecting herself.
There is a serious problem here with girls pregnant to immediate family; i.e. incest. One of the local Baptist pastors told me of his concerns with the numbers in the congregation.
There are bad men and women everywhere, however our responsibility is to preach the gospel to them that they might be saved.
There are bad men and women everywhere, however our responsibility is to preach the gospel to them that they might be saved.
Exactly.
And that is another major flaw with the idea that women should never be alone with unrelated men, but can be with relatives. In some cases such women will be being "protected" from the men who are less of a threat, while being put in closer contact with the men who are actually at greater risk of abusing them. In certain societal settings such "protection" may actually increase the amount of sexual abuse, not reduce it.
I used to say single gals at poly sites get as much attention as a bug in the chicken pen. Not really funny at all.