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Summer 2022 Family Retreat recap and post-retreat discussion

But marriage these days is literally governmental/legally binding and many on here have expressed their distain for legal marriage. This is the same marriage that gay people want the right to have. If it's flawed, not scripturally based, the government has no place in it etc. then why protect it so adamantly against gays? Why not just focus their attention on homosexual relationships not existing at all. A gay couple's ability to not be able to legally marry won't eliminate homosexual relationships.

I'm not asking all of this to be a smartass, I just think it's a little odd.

I think "trash" was a bit of an over-kill lol sorry about that.
Perhaps we need to focus more on which relationships are sinful and which are not(?) A piece of paper purchased from some government office doesn't change God's condemnation of any sinful relationship. And sin remains sin despite public opinion and government sanction.
 
I second this. The Pease Trophy should award 1,000 points for marrying sisters. It should also probably subtract a certain number of points for marrying cousins…..
OK, if marrying sisters is enviable (and I agree that it is), I fail to see any train of logic that would identify marrying cousins as unenviable. Depending on one's predilections and biases, one might promote more or less points for cousins, but surely one wouldn't need to be punished for it!

Personally, while I find the point system amusing, I think if one were to take it entirely seriously something closer to 100 points should be the maximum. I just checked the 'standings,' and 1000 points would vault anyone with biological sister wives up to the top without otherwise breaking a sweat.

Of course, maybe I'm misinterpreting the motivation. Is James (or The Revolting Man) asserting that being married to two biological sisters some kind of tremendous burden? I have to ask, because, from the outside, it appears to me to be otherwise -- and, by the reactions I heard and otherwise observed from other men at the retreat, it seems pretty clear to me that the envy factor is much larger than the notion that anyone wouldn't want to be in James' shoes.

Therefore, all things considered, I'd encourage 100 points for sisters -- 50 for the accomplishment, and another 50 for properly avoiding the vexxing dynamic -- and 50 points for first-cousins, 25 for second-cousins!


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God leads everybody's life differently. I DO not rate one persons achevivments or personality above another. Because God only knows what you have been through and where you are with your walk with God. The test of time tells ones true character by putting it under Gods word. Back to thread I greatly enjoyed the retreat and pray spiritual seeds where planted that will change everybody's life for the better.
 
God leads everybody's life differently. I DO not rate one persons achevivments or personality above another. Because God only knows what you have been through and where you are with your walk with God. The test of time tells ones true character by putting it under Gods word. Back to thread I greatly enjoyed the retreat and pray spiritual seeds where planted that will change everybody's life for the better.
If you don't mind, please send me a private message to let me know who you are, or, alternatively, have your husband contact me. I don't recognize the username. Thanks!
 
The governments have gotten involved in marriage only in the last hundred or so years. Before most were notated in the family Bible and these records were held acceptable in courts. The governments involvement gave them the ability to control the population and prevent cross race and socioeconomic levels to name a few as well as generate revenue as usual. The government has no place in the marriage relationship. This also gave them the ability to track parentage and institute birth certificates.
I also think that the insurance company’s lobbied hard. They didn’t want the payouts that come with a large family. Certainly didn’t want to payout for more than one family under the same policy. You know they had bean counters do the math. And face it they (insurance co.) are in it for profit not to take care of the insured
 
I also think that the insurance company’s lobbied hard. They didn’t want the payouts that come with a large family. Certainly didn’t want to payout for more than one family under the same policy. You know they had bean counters do the math. And face it they (insurance co.) are in it for profit not to take care of the insured

There is always social hierarchy. And those on top would like to stay there. And the way is by cutting stairways to top.

Achieving above requires total monopolization of power. Forming state is good first goal. But elite can still be replaced. So they go for total control of everything.
 
OK, if marrying sisters is enviable (and I agree that it is), I fail to see any train of logic that would identify marrying cousins as unenviable. Depending on one's predilections and biases, one might promote more or less points for cousins, but surely one wouldn't need to be punished for it!

Personally, while I find the point system amusing, I think if one were to take it entirely seriously something closer to 100 points should be the maximum. I just checked the 'standings,' and 1000 points would vault anyone with biological sister wives up to the top without otherwise breaking a sweat.

Of course, maybe I'm misinterpreting the motivation. Is James (or The Revolting Man) asserting that being married to two biological sisters some kind of tremendous burden? I have to ask, because, from the outside, it appears to me to be otherwise -- and, by the reactions I heard and otherwise observed from other men at the retreat, it seems pretty clear to me that the envy factor is much larger than the notion that anyone wouldn't want to be in James' shoes.

Therefore, all things considered, I'd encourage 100 points for sisters -- 50 for the accomplishment, and another 50 for properly avoiding the vexxing dynamic -- and 50 points for first-cousins, 25 for second-cousins!


;)
I think the concern is if they're YOUR cousins......
 
(that's how I saw it, too)
I have a cousin my husband would have been interested in. She is beautiful, talented, sweet, good with children, family oriented and still living at home in her 30's.
Sadly her child bearing years are passing and she has no prospects that I'm aware of. I heard she turned down a couple married men that had interest in her being a second.

I can see how someone who has never been married/in a relationship might have a hard time imagining being a second. It was easy however for me once married to imagine not being an only.

I think it would be easy and natural for a woman used to being in a family (parents and siblings) to transition into a shared home with a husband and his wife/wives and children. You would just have a different place and relationship with a husband that you don't and shouldn't have with a father.

I hope my wonderful cousin doesn't end up a favorite old spinster aunt. She is the 3rd in a family of nine, and the kind of woman many men would be beyond thankful to have.
 
I second this. The Pease Trophy should award 1,000 points for marrying sisters. It should also probably subtract a certain number of points for marrying cousins…..
OK, if marrying sisters is enviable (and I agree that it is), I fail to see any train of logic that would identify marrying cousins as unenviable. Depending on one's predilections and biases, one might promote more or less points for cousins, but surely one wouldn't need to be punished for it!
I think the concern is if they're YOUR cousins......
Apples and oranges.

Unless, of course, you want to saddle James with the Pease Award granting men 1000 points for marrying their own sisters!
 
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