I endured watching for 5 minutes, read some of the comments, and gave up.
It's sad listening to Mike's derogatory and misleading comments, then reading those making supportive comments to his error. I thank God He knows those that are His because it's really hard to tell who the real believers are any more.
Isaiah 8:20
@Daniel DeLuca summarized it. “Mia” is a Greek word that the smart people tel me can mean “a” or the number “one”. If you must have a wife it doesn’t preclude you from having two or more wives but if you must have one wife you can only have the one.
There are some godly women who are not fornicating. I like to point out to people the fact that they are forbidding these women marriage, which Paul laid out as a doctrine of demons.
When you get sick to you stomach of listening to this, turn off the sound and bring up the transcript. It is much easier to stomach than when you get hit by one ridiculous statement after another. That gives you the ability to respond point by point.
that's a pretty good idea
sounds like you are saying the error is being made by the anti-polygyny crowd who point to this scripture as support for their argument without understanding the greek "mia?" if so then i think it makes more sense that the error not be named with reference to the greek.
if im not mistaken i have heard pete say that god "always saw" israel as 2, or "always intended" for them to become 2
That’s the key word “some.” Most will go and fornicate and then end up falling for a non-believer or someone who only gives lip service - but never actually took the time to study scripture.
Through the prophets - we learn that the Creator saw them as two sisters - the two wives - even when they were in Egypt.
I would qualify that college bit. I knew some godly ladies even at the secular university that I attended, but if your daughter is not well grounded in the faith, and she has been raised in a public school setting, pitfalls do indeed abound. I would be interested though to get an opinion on this from @Maia, since she may be considering going off to college when she graduates.
Statistically speaking - very few girls remain virgins between 18-22. Seniors in high schools, and the college years. They are sleeping around, and then expect monogamy only.
It's funny! JD, in his debate against @PeteR and @biblemarriages called it "Greekifying". Yet when they argue against God giving David his wives, they themselves resort to "Hebrewifying".
The best way to deal with that, is to look up every usage of the word Mia, and give example after example of how it has been translated into English. I don't personally use this tactic to argue that it is OK for bishops, deacons, and elders, but exegetically, for those who do use this tactic, anyone who bases their opposition to polygyny on that passage would have no choice but to acknowlege it, if there is an overwhelming amount of evidence against the current rendering in most translations. The obstacle that we often run into, is that the anti-poly folks have this invisible army of "experts" that they like to come back with. It is not enough to convince us, but it is enough to convince some people who are on the fence.
Sounds like they come from the same cloth as the “fact checkers” in the mainstream news channels.
As far as I know "mia" means both "one" and "first". Correct meaning is decided by context which, in this case means, translator's theology will decide.
Which is what I said.
