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Preparing for a post-virus world

https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavi...ernor-to-seek-state-supreme-court-review.html

Another slap in the face of tyranny and constitutional overreach. Oregon judge found governor had overstepped her authority according to state constitution. Oregon limits to a one month emergency declaration. She extended it without legislative input. It's a temporary win for churches but the liberal reputation of Oregon may just find their legislature agreeing to extend it. This may be another bellwether for the populace.

Same thing happened here in WI a week or so ago, Supreme Court struck it down and everything opened up (except for the idiot liberal localities where they passed local lockdowns).

Things will have to open up in most places this summer, the government will completely loose legitimacy otherwise, and people will just ignore it and open anyway.
 

This isn't a new situation, but it's getting a lot worse lately. The implication of what he's talking about is the cattle market will go the way of the hog market. The auctions will close and people will get whatever the packers give them on delivery; which means they'll be ripped off at every turn and won't be raising cattle much longer. Total collapse of the US beef industry outside of vertically integrated operations. This will cause a lot of rural western areas to see economic collapse. Lots of ranches will fold. The beef will be replaced by import beef. Some conglomerate will probably buy up the hay rights and ship it to China or Saudi Arabia.
 
Local police force in New Jersey refusing to enforce governor's orders

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...reopens_with_cheers_as_police_stand_down.html

I'm thinking the US is a little different than down under ;)
Update:
Local county officials used local police to give citations to members of the gym and the owners. One member was arrested, sent to the pokey, but released quickly. Lawyer has vowed to represent anyone arrested or fined. Go fundie has already been set up for owners and members to pay fines.
 
Today, while walking down one of our most popular public pathways (open to bikes, walking, running, etc.) I decided to count the number of people wearing masks. The ratio was 44:19.

44 did not wear a mask
19 were wearing one.

One do-gooder on a bicycle thanked a woman for wearing one. He looked at me and scolded me (not harshly) and said we all should be wearing one. I ignored him and went on my way breathing trouble free.
 
The other day my uncle (who is disabled in a wheelchair) sent his stepson (who is 16) into the post office to check the mail.
Well there were some women standing around with masks on, he wasn't wearing one, and one of the women yelled at him "are you trying to kill everyone!?" to which he responded "I'm sorry ma'am, I couldn't hear you" so she said it louder, and he responded the same, so then she pulled the mask down off her face and pretty much screamed at him "ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL EVERYONE!?" To which he replied "ma'am your mask just fell down." She popped her cork!
I heard she was rather livid at the little whippersnapper who would dare to make fun of her!
 
I was in the supermarket here the other day, getting supplies. Most things were there, but particular shelves were much barer than normal and many cheaper brands were unavailable. Not only flour, but also pasta, bread, biscuits (cookies), frozen vegetables, and various other items were limited to 2 or 4 items per customer. This might be ok for townies who shop every second day, but I was driving in from the country for and trying to buy 2 weeks worth of food for a family of 9...

The whole atmosphere was different to normal. People were polite, but it felt like being transported suddenly to a communist state. Queue at the door and only go in when the security guard says you can (after someone else comes out, as there are a limited number of people allowed inside at one time). Checkout staff enforcing quota limits. Basically, there is a class of people in society who are generally powerless, but in a situation like this get raised to little positions of power - like deciding who can enter a door when. They take these jobs very seriously, and think their jobs are very important. Suddenly they have power over others. These are the little people who are given power over all the little matters in any socialist society, and they embrace it with enthusiasm. It felt like their time had come - it felt like the communists had seized power over the food production system. Now, that is NOT the reality, at least yet. But it felt that way, and it was a very interesting societal change, particularly since it has happened so suddenly and without an actual political change.

The most bizzare conversation I had was with a checkout operator.
"I've got a problem with the bread quota. I have seven children, live in the country and shop once every week or two. We would usually buy 20-30 loaves at a time. I know that is not possible, but is there any way I could buy a few more than four?"
"Do you have any evidence that you have seven children?"
"Um, no, I don't see how I could prove that."
"I thought it might be written on your drivers licence or something."
I had no idea how to respond to that! She called over her supervisor, who suspiciously and grumpily allowed me to purchase 8 loaves of bread. Another little person with sudden power over a tiny detail of the lives of others...

The bread and other baking items shortage is because, completely ridiculously, our supermarkets are allowed to be open but the bakeries have to be closed. So everybody who normally buys bread at the bakeries is trying to buy it at the supermarkets, and the supply chains, even though they are running as normal, simply cannot keep up with this sudden increased demand.
Because they can't buy bread or biscuits, they are buying flour to make their own. Flour is then in short supply. There's actually mountains of flour at the flour mills, but most is packed in very large sacks to send to bakeries. There is a shortage of consumer-sized paper flour bags! So flour is running out in the supermarkets but accumulating in the flour mills.
Utter craziness.

But how long will this continue? How much of this social change will remain in a few months?

The fragility of our entire system is clearly demonstrated by the fact that something as simple as a shortage of paper bags can be so disruptive.
Here in the US, all quality manual (non-electric) grain grinders are on back order. You can buy bread currently, but if you are thinking ahead to that changing, seems everyone else is thinking it too. I have to order yeast online...
 
Here in the US, all quality manual (non-electric) grain grinders are on back order. You can buy bread currently, but if you are thinking ahead to that changing, seems everyone else is thinking it too. I have to order yeast online...
Start learning sourdough... I am..
 
And I went "shopping" yesterday and found two yearling Jersey heifers that we will bringing home next month. :)
We found two 6 mo Angus bulls today... beef next year...
 
Here in the US, all quality manual (non-electric) grain grinders are on back order. You can buy bread currently, but if you are thinking ahead to that changing, seems everyone else is thinking it too. I have to order yeast online...

My local stores can't get yeast from the distributors.
 
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We found two 6 mo Angus bulls today... beef next year...
Bulls or steers?
Or maybe you are into a nice fresh plate of Rocky Mountain Oysters?
 
I worked at a meat processing plant in Fort Worth during high school. Bull meat was added to cow meat before grinding to give hamburger its chewy texture. That's why one burns more calories eating hamburger than eating filet mignon.
 
Hey.. I just need 12 -14 months, then off to the butcher... second time doing this, but we were steered to the gentler class last time.. either way, got lots of bullchit to deal with...
 
Hey.. I just need 12 -14 months, then off to the butcher... second time doing this, but we were steered to the gentler class last time.. either way, got lots of bullchit to deal with...
No matter how you do it, I envy (in a positive way) the chance that you have to do it.
 
Around here all the butchers/meat packagers are booked up for a year! We have several friends who raise grassfed, but getting them processed is the issue...
Excellent!! This will force homesteaders to being thinking about and planning for home/farm processing!
 
If anyone is near Kentucky/ Indiana and wants meat processed I have a friend who raises her own cows, hogs, chickens, and rabbits. She also processes everything at home. I’m sure she’ll do it for a really good price :)
 
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