January 20th 2025 - Donald Trump is BACK!

[MeganC]

I am on public (very public) record as saying the BLM rioters had the right to burn down the police department.

They were redressing grievances.

 

[theleastofthese]

I am on public (very public) record as saying the BLM rioters had the right to burn down the police department.

For some reason I believe that, lol.
Let's be honest, if the roles were reversed, not a single person on here would say something like-

If these men saw it as overthrowing a Tyrannical Form of Government who am I to judge that and say it’s not as they were acting within the legal rights of the land that the Bill of Rights established.

We'd all be laughing, posting memes, or saying a lot worse and Mark C would be having a meltdown.

 

[MemeFan]

No, they were not invited inside.

Proven by others. Also there were at least 26 federal agents in crowd.

That makes absolutely zero sense. They were certifying Biden's victory that day. Why on earth would Pelosi stop the Biden certification? Come on.

Because Congressman supported by Senator can complain election was improper for their state. If complaint was accepted, electors will thrown out.

With enough thrown out electors, there is special case. I forgot name. Now each state with send one delegate who will vote per instruction by state parlaments. Since Republicans have controlled more state parlaments than Democrats, Trump would win.

Horewer, if some emergency happens, then House Speaker and Vice President can certify election.

This is way Pelosi needed invented emergency.

National Guard is under the command of the Governors of the US states, the Governors may loan them to the Pentagon, but they can yank that away. Part of the checks and balance of the USA. The nuclear weapons dropping B2 stealth bombers? Missouri Air National Guard.

No completely. They are federalized according to need. And here we are speaking about non-state territory.

Troops under the command of the Pentagon may not be used as paramilitary forces within the US. I would assume that would include federalized National Guard units as well.

How you think real rebellion is crushed? By army. Army isn't allowed police duties.

One could argue that the Boston Tea Party was also not an insurrection.

That was real insurrection.

Germany, 1930s, the SA was not heavily armed at the time.

There were 20 insurrections in Weimar Germany from 1914 - 1924. What is funny is total impotence of state to crush them.

Freikorps had to save Germany at these time. They show how real insurections are crushed. By river of blood, not jail time (that's for unlucky survivors).

the average cost of a car in the USA is ~$45,000, electric cars are currently higher on average, but closing the GAP

Method of operation is to raise costs for regular people by any means neccesary. They being people, they fail too often.

Ah yes the elites. It is always some elites that get blamed.

Because there are only two ways to earn money. Economic by voluntary transcation with mutual benefits for both side.

Political where force or threat of force is used for one sided transactions.

Using force enables elites to stay in power and shape society for their benefits. If most of property is shared by political support rather than created by free market, then your own standing in society and your material comfort can only be secured by supporting current ruling class.*

Therefore, ruling class always has interest in expanding political methods of getting property because it drives demand for elite services (they write all laws) and makes elites more secure.

Sadly for them, communism doesn't work. Horewer, from elite standpoint they are still on top and suffer least.

What about removing the double digit billions that the oils and gas industry gets?
What about removing the government underwriting of the insurance of nuclear powerplants. I think that nuclear power plants should be 100% insured via the privat market (no private insurance company will take on the risk, since you are bankrupt if something goes wrong)
What about removing the subsidy for Hurricane insurance in Florida?

Great ideas.

Yet so many people get triggered by the EV subsidies.

Because people got wiser with times.

First new product is introduced, with subsidies if needed. Then slowly new regulation strangle any competition throught time.

With time people accept new product and forgot all other ways.

EV vehicles are part of this. It's obvius ruling class wants to eliminate all ICEs.

Also, since EV are more expensive than ICEs, subsidies for EVs are subsidies for rich.

I would actually be curious to see green libertarian coalition. Environmental policies balanced by a more pragmatic capitalistic approach. Which in Europe might work.

Won't work since there aren't enough green believers in Europe. And I prefer product without green add-on costs.

Bt the way, there is one such party in Croatia. At elections last year they lost all seats bar one. Geniuses.

*Most easily seen in communist regimes. There is no open dissident.

 

[The Revolting Man]

For some reason I believe that, lol. Let's be honest, if the roles were reversed, not a single person on here would say something like-

We'd all be laughing, posting memes, or saying a lot worse and Mark C would be having a meltdown.

I’m not entirely sure what you’re saying. Are you saying that if leftists had performed J6 the everyone here would be condemning them as insurrectionists?

That’s possible. Tribalism is a seductive siren call. I don’t know that it would be that cut and dried yet.

 

[The Revolting Man]

For some reason I believe that, lol. Let's be honest, if the roles were reversed, not a single person on here would say something like-

We'd all be laughing, posting memes, or saying a lot worse and Mark C would be having a meltdown.

Here’s he proof! One of my “fans” didn’t appreciate the view and tried to weapon use a clip. Which I wholeheartedly approve of!

 

[Maia]

I started this last night, but then it got to late.

One thing people don't seem to factor in is that electric cars just don't last as long as petrol / diesel ones.

So far battery degradation is tracking better then anticipated, however the verdict is still out on a final assessment. The rest of the vehicle should be more reliable, electric engines are more reliable then ICE engines, same with electric tools compared with gasoline powered tools.

It will be interesting how companies handle battery repair, so far they seem to be focusing more on replacing individual modules and not the whole pack.

All my cars are over 25 years old, one is over 100.

Now you have made me curious what the one over 100 is. The highest probability would be a Ford Model T or Model A, but you are in New Zealand, that might skew the numbers. I do not know anything about the New Zealand car culture. I guess it could be a Holden, but I think not. I have never heard of a Ford or GM factory in New Zealand, I think I have heard of a Chrysler factory in New Zealand, but I am not sure where. I do not think you are a Dodge person, perhaps Chrysler or Plymouth. I guess GM could have imported vehicles not sure if Opel/Vauxhall or the US brands. Perhaps a Commonwealth connection, Rover or MG. Hmmm I think Mopar for some reason.

Give me a hint please! Describe the hood ornament perhaps?

Electric vehicles (by which I mean modern complex ones with electronics and lithium batteries) simply don't last that long. They might do 10 years, maybe 15 with greatly diminished performance, but that's it. There will never be lots of old electric cars on the road, just as there are not lots of 25-year-old cellphones or laptop computers in common use.

That has not been determined

Did some goggling, the average age of a car in the USA is 16.58 years, and 156,470 miles, granted that is likely lowered by the notorious poor rust protection that the domestic 3 use. One rarely finds a 10+ year old truck that does not have rust all over it.
On a 10+ year old car any ICE, or transmission failure will likely be a economic loss.

Out of curiosity I googled what the highest mileage Tesla is. It is a Tesla Model S with 1.96 million km, (1.2 million miles). It is on its 4th battery. Averaging over 400,000km per pack is not bad. Problem: It is on it's 13th motor, the early Ss suffered from stay eddies.

So EVs should naturally taken over the market? They’re demonstrably better and they don’t need subsidies or mandates? We can let the market dictate?

At the moment no, however if the western auto makers do not start making more affordable electric vehicles, then the Chinese will run them out of the market.

There are some electric vehicles that are cheap and cheerful

The Renault Cinq, or the Fiat Grand Punto for example.

On top of that, my job requires me to drive around 200-300 miles four days a week in a vehicle capable of carrying ladders, tools and materials, hundreds of pounds of all three. There’s not an EV made the can do that.

The two problems for electric cars are towing, not just the range hit, but there are few pull through chargers, and overlanding. I specifically mention overlanding (Rubicon trail, Australian Outback, African Savanna etc.) since off-roading itself is not an issue, one does not really cover much distance when off-roading, it is rather slow travelling. A Rivian can spend a day in Moab.

If you are towing then 300 miles a day will be a problem.

If not, then the Silverado EV might work for you. It has been independently tested as having a range of 434 miles at 70mph. The weight will not have much of an impact on the range. It is an expensive vehicle...

One of the biggest problems with a large increase in EV usage is the capacity of the electric grid.
It just isn’t there and won’t be for the foreseeable future. In addition to generating capacity, most of the transmission systems would need huge upgrades.

Utilities get companies to distribute the load with demand charges. They vary between utilities, You 350 kW for even one second you can get hit with charges of $100,000 or more. Hence buffers are used.

It is more an of an issue in the USA since it is stuck with 110V, 240V 3 phase solves a lot of problem with regards to amps. I am always concerned when pulling out the plug on a 110V vacuum cleaner, and feeling it being almost to hot to touch, 240V vacuum cleaners plugs are cold.

The German utility Energie Badem Württemberg did several experiments on how electric cars would impact the Girds.

In one test they took a medium sized apartment building with 58 car stalls, every stall got a level 2 charger, there were no other grid upgrades there were already some electric cars in the building, as part of the test everyone else got handed one. What surprised them was that there were never more then 13 parallel charging sessions. People came and went at different times.

The second test was a small village several single family homes, again there were already some electric cars, the others got handed cars, some houses had solar power, that was also taken into the test. The grid upgrade was a battery buffer.

The 3rd test involved 5 German cities ~7 families in each city got a monitored charger to analyse usage.

Their assessment was that while the grid needs to be upgraded they do not consider it insurmountable.

Also, The Bill of Rights says that we have a right to overthrow a Tyrannical Form of Government. If these men saw it as overthrowing a Tyrannical Form of Government who am I to judge that and say it’s not as they were acting within the legal rights of the land that the Bill of Rights established. By your thinking @Maia all this countries founding fathers are terrorist.

So we just go by subjective opinion? So every time a democrat is in power the extrem right gets to riot, and every time a republican is in power the extreme left gets to riot? That is silly. It is also an insult towards people who are really living in tyranny.

A Member of Congress disagrees with you.

Proven by others. Also there were at least 26 federal agents in crowd.

Unfortunately, those statements cause epistemological problems of sufficient magnitude to lay upon the logical and semantic structure of the English language a heavier burden then they can reasonably be expected to bear.

Would you find it acceptable that your guests scale your walls?

Put up Gallows in front of your house

Break your windows?

Do they stand with sledge hammers on your lawn.

Why are you defending this pond scum?

Because Congressman supported by Senator can complain election was improper for their state. If complaint was accepted, electors will thrown out.

With enough thrown out electors, there is special case. I forgot name. Now each state with send one delegate who will vote per instruction by state parlaments. Since Republicans have controlled more state parlaments than Democrats, Trump would win.

Horewer, if some emergency happens, then House Speaker and Vice President can certify election.

This is way Pelosi needed invented emergency.

I do not know what "news" source you got that from,but put them on the unreliable list, since they have fed you a bunch of nonsense.

Each US state certifies there own election, including the actual number of votes and by law they need to do this at the latest 6 day before the Washington gathering. Any complaint gets filled with the Federal District Court of the capitol of the state, the District court can escalate to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is required by law to give a final verdict BEFORE the certification starts.

3 U.S Code § 5.

No completely. They are federalized according to need. And here we are speaking about non-state territory.



How you think real rebellion is crushed? By army. Army isn't allowed police duties.

Pentagon is not allowed to engage domestically. If it does then the USA has stopped existing in its current form.

Using force enables elites to stay in power and shape society for their benefits. If most of property is shared by political support rather than created by free market, then your own standing in society and your material comfort can only be secured by supporting current ruling class.*

Therefore, ruling class always has interest in expanding political methods of getting property because it drives demand for elite services (they write all laws) and makes elites more secure.

Stop whining.

Bezos started Amazon by packing books from the garage of a modest house, Google was founded by teenagers in a middle class family, and Billy Gates was a University drop out. None of them were Rockefellers or anything.

Also, since EV are more expensive than ICEs, subsidies for EVs are subsidies for rich.

Like I said, the Chinese will force the costs down

And I prefer product without green add-on costs.

People always complain about that.

When the catalytic converter was introduced people complained about the cost, even though it cleaned the exhaust considerably. When factories were required by law to clean their waste water instead of just dumping it into the river, people complained about that it would increase cost.

It costs money to do the morally correct thing.

"Where did you drive a BYD Seal?

Germany. Annoyingly, I could not drive it alone since one has to be 18 for a full drivers license in Germany.

Please delete this comment and apologize to Mark.

In half his comments he is screaming and yelling. He goes on a rant against everyone he disagrees with.

Searching for his posts:

"You don't have a CLUE what you are prattling about."
"Honestly, your level of deliberate ignorance is astounding."


I do not need to apologize about anything. I was very moderate in my response compared to him.

 

[steve]

Did some goggling, the average age of a car in the USA is 16.58 years, and 156,470 miles, granted that is likely lowered by the notorious poor rust protection that the domestic 3 use. One rarely finds a 10+ year old truck that does not have rust all over it.
On a 10+ year old car any ICE, or transmission failure will likely be an economic loss.

We are, admittedly, overvehiclized with 5 vehicles for three adults. One is specifically for a business and the others have different purposes.
I can’t match Samuel, but our oldest is an’86 Ford pickup and the youngest is an ’06 pickup. A 2000 Ford Excursion is in the mix, so you can see that two vehicles are actually classics.

The vehicles are rust free and replacing an engine or a transmission is much cheaper than a battery pack. Plus there isn’t any mining required to rebuild one.

There is just zero justification for purchasing an EV at my house.

Oh, and my semi tractor is a ’99 Freightliner with over 2 million miles on it. It is a bit rough, I would have to admit.

 

[steve]

 

[steve]

Having trouble posting the picture with text, so I’m adding it here.
She is a straight 6, 300 ci, with a toploader 4 speed.

 

[FollowingHim]

Now you have made me curious what the one over 100 is. The highest probability would be a Ford Model T or Model A, but you are in New Zealand, that might skew the numbers. I do not know anything about the New Zealand car culture. I guess it could be a Holden, but I think not. I have never heard of a Ford or GM factory in New Zealand, I think I have heard of a Chrysler factory in New Zealand, but I am not sure where. I do not think you are a Dodge person, perhaps Chrysler or Plymouth. I guess GM could have imported vehicles not sure if Opel/Vauxhall or the US brands. Perhaps a Commonwealth connection, Rover or MG. Hmmm I think Mopar for some reason.

Give me a hint please! Describe the hood ornament perhaps?

Now that's hard to do in a way that is obscure enough to just be a hint, I'll try...
The "hood ornament" is a flat logo on the front, which comprises a globe superimposed with a religious symbol.

Did some goggling, the average age of a car in the USA is 16.58 years, and 156,470 miles, granted that is likely lowered by the notorious poor rust protection that the domestic 3 use. One rarely finds a 10+ year old truck that does not have rust all over it.
On a 10+ year old car any ICE, or transmission failure will likely be a economic loss.

If average age is 16 years, half the cars in the fleet are older than that. I had guessed most vehicles are used for about 20 years before being scrapped, but if the average age is 16 years that actually suggests most vehicles are used for about 30 years (rust and all). Essentially no electric vehicles will reach that age, yet it's normal for ICE vehicles.

Having said that, most modern ICE vehicles are also too complex to reach 30 years. Hybrids won't last much longer than EVs, even modern non-hybrids are so complex they have too much to go wrong and will struggle to last more than 15 years. Partly due to planned obsolescence, partly just because complex things never last.

Parts for modern vehicles are so complex (particularly electronics) they have to be made in a specialist factory. Once the factory stops making that model, and the stockpiles of spare parts run out, no more repairs can be made. All breakdowns are write offs. While my 100-year-old car also has no parts being made for it any more, but every part is a simple chunk of metal that can be machined by any engineer, allowing it to theoretically be maintained forever. Which is, incidentally, recycling - far better for the environment than throwing something away and buying a new one, even if it does burn a little bit more fuel.

Utilities get companies to distribute the load with demand charges.

You just talk about electricity distribution. It's not distribution that is the problem - that's solvable as you describe. It's production that is the limiting factor. Without a lot more nuclear and coal power stations there simply is not enough electricity available to change the fleet over to electricity.

 

[FollowingHim2]

The bigger problem is not necessarily how long a vehicle will last, but the fact that society is moving into a state where things are thrown away rather than repaired. How many young people know how to repair their car if things go wrong? If it breaks down on the side of the road? Would it just be better to get a newer model that they know will last another 5-10 years without anything going wrong? As the young generation grows up and has children, they don't pass on any helpful information on how to fix their vehicle either.
And now we've reached a point with electric vehicles, that they are so complicated that no one knows how to fix them at all. Instead vehicles are going to a mechanic and costing hundreds or thousands to fix. Why not just put that money into a new car?

 

[MemeFan]

The bigger problem is not necessarily how long a vehicle will last, but the fact that society is moving into a state where things are thrown away rather than repaired. How many young people know how to repair their car if things go wrong? If it breaks down on the side of the road? Would it just be better to get a newer model that they know will last another 5-10 years without anything going wrong? As the young generation grows up and has children, they don't pass on any helpful information on how to fix their vehicle either.
And now we've reached a point with electric vehicles, that they are so complicated that no one knows how to fix them at all. Instead vehicles are going to a mechanic and costing hundreds or thousands to fix. Why not just put that money into a new car?

Not repairing per se isn't issue.

Six Sigma revolution made repairing uneconomical. Simply put, if new product costs same as repairing as old, then why to repair?

Key issue with modern times is manufacturers doing everything to stop repair option. Just put it all in software and you can't touch it because it's manufacturers IP.

 

[steve]

Key issue with modern times is manufacturers doing everything to stop repair option. Just put it all in software and you can't touch it because it's manufacturers IP.

This is happening with farm machinery.

 

[MemeFan]

So far battery degradation is tracking better then anticipated, however the verdict is still out on a final assessment. The rest of the vehicle should be more reliable, electric engines are more reliable then ICE engines, same with electric tools compared with gasoline powered tools.

Why which measures? ICE don't start suddenly on fire.

So we just go by subjective opinion? So every time a democrat is in power the extrem right gets to riot, and every time a republican is in power the extreme left gets to riot? That is silly. It is also an insult towards people who are really living in tyranny.

Right doesn't riot. Left does since they consider any human sacrifice to achieve utopia acceptable.

By the way, Radical liberation Youtube channel has whole series on left terror movement. Do you know bombmakers from 70s got fine university jobs?

Unfortunately, those statements cause epistemological problems of sufficient magnitude to lay upon the logical and semantic structure of the English language a heavier burden then they can reasonably be expected to bear.

Would you find it acceptable that your guests scale your walls?

Put up Gallows in front of your house

Break your windows?

Do they stand with sledge hammers on your lawn.

Political building isn't house. And by US laws these are all freedom of speech (gallows and similar) or feds starting riot to cause justification for future crackdown.

It's well known police tactic is put agents in civilian clothing which try to start riot which justifies state to send message by eliminating all dissident.

Basic incentive analysis tell you why. State is involuntary association. In voluntary ones when people don't agree they go each on their own way.

Horewer, when people and ruling class disagree, people can replace ruling and send them to jail, exile or another world. Therefore, since situation can easily become fight to death, ruling class has every incentive to crush dissent by any means possible.

Only issue is making crushing aceeptable to rest of population. They don't want for crackdown to start actual civil war.

Why are you defending this pond scum?

Because they right. Tell me now how Democrats have lost 20M voters in 2024 which they had in 2020. And Twitter is full of methods done to cheat in elections.

Why USA doesn't have mandatory voter ID laws? Because they make voting by illegals easy.

Found claims on Twitter by foreign citizens that they have voted in US election. This shouldn't be possible.

This was political prosecution. Federales have charged anyone even remotetly connected with "riot". I know case of Pat Stedman who was send to jail for taking him everyday regular walk.

I do not know what "news" source you got that from,but put them on the unreliable list, since they have fed you a bunch of nonsense.

Each US state certifies there own election, including the actual number of votes and by law they need to do this at the latest 6 day before the Washington gathering. Any complaint gets filled with the Federal District Court of the capitol of the state, the District court can escalate to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is required by law to give a final verdict BEFORE the certification starts.

3 U.S Code § 5.

My post was about certification process done in Congress.

And each state certificating itself means nothing. Electoral college exist as method of stopping cheating (not only reason). So if one state decides to cheat, they will off course certify themselves. So other states must be able to check on potential cheater.

By the way, in 2020 Texas and some other state have started suit against Pennyslvania (I think) for electoral cheating. Supreme Court didn't even started court process. Why? Would starting discovery find irregularities?

Pentagon is not allowed to engage domestically. If it does then the USA has stopped existing in its current form.

And CIA is forbidden from spying Americans. So they just ask rest of 5 Eyes to do spying for them.

Bureaucrat's thinking. Everything is legal since we done everything according to procedure/law, while actually breaking spirit of law.

Stop whining.

Bezos started Amazon by packing books from the garage of a modest house, Google was founded by teenagers in a middle class family, and Billy Gates was a University drop out. None of them were Rockefellers or anything.

None of them were elites when starting out. They have incentive to use economical way of getting rich because stealing is way to dangerous.

It's simple @Maia. Use economic/incentive analysis. Being on top of social hierarchy is very desirable, so these guys don't have any reason to allow downward mobility (only mobility available to them, this makes them favour no social mobility). Which means any method where they stay on top is good.

To get on top you must be smart and they all know they could be replaced when they get old. So better to fix downward mobility now.

Also, why earn money when state can provide you with more risk-free money than any market?

Like I said, the Chinese will force the costs down

Count me sceptical.

Auto industry is always politically sensintive and no way EU/USA will allow Chinese to destroy theirs. If tariffs aren't enough they will make Chinese to open factories in EU/USA and use high cost local manufacturing.

People always complain about that.

Nobody complains about value add if it costs more. They complain for getting same for more money.

When the catalytic converter was introduced people complained about the cost, even though it cleaned the exhaust considerably. When factories were required by law to clean their waste water instead of just dumping it into the river, people complained about that it would increase cost.

It costs money to do the morally correct thing.

These are examples of breaking property rights.

EDIT: Spelling

 

[The Revolting Man]

At the moment no, however if the western auto makers do not start making more affordable electric vehicles, then the Chinese will run them out of the market.

I am very skeptical of this claim. China has thousands of EVs rotting in storage lots because they can’t sell. Communism is a stupid, wasteful, destructive, absolutely insane system and it will never triumph. Command economies can not work.

 

[MemeFan]

Also, why earn money when state can provide you with more risk-free money than any market?

Btw, this is how Rothschilds and Fuggers (original banking unbeliveably rich family) got rich. They started lending to rulers huge amounts of money.

Fuggers for their efforts got silver mines. Literally money printing for metals. Current method is just more tech way (and cheaper too).

 

[Maia]

Now that's hard to do in a way that is obscure enough to just be a hint, I'll try...
The "hood ornament" is a flat logo on the front, which comprises a globe superimposed with a religious symbol.

Globe.

Cadillac uses a globe but I believe that was more then 1940s.

Triumph used a globe, but not sure about the religious symbol, they used a version with wings, but I do not think that was supposed to be the wings of an angel.

Will ponder this.

 

[MeganC]

At the moment no, however if the western auto makers do not start making more affordable electric vehicles, then the Chinese will run them out of the market.

President Trump is ending the electric car mandates and that alone will end the market for overpriced and poorly executed golf carts that masquerade as practical transportation.

The point of the electric car scheme was to promote the leftist 15 Minute City method of imposing internal passports on people. The idea being that individuals would be deprived of the freedom to travel in order to save the planet. The cost of electric cars puts them out of reach for poor people and electric cars that require expensive repairs are absent from the resale market where many poor people buy their transportation. The impracticality of charging these vehicles particularly in an urban setting makes these vehicles untenable for working poor people and the intent is to force them to either work close to where they live or else be forced onto public transit.

15-minute city - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The result would be what we see in China and other authoritarian regimes where one has to have permission to travel around the country and undesirable elements with low social credit scores would essentially exist under a permanent state of house arrest.

F*** that.

 

[MeganC]

Why which measures? ICE don't start suddenly on fire.

Right doesn't riot. Left does since they consider any human sacrifice to achieve utopia acceptable.

By the way, Radical liberation Youtube channel has whole series on left terror movement. Do you know bombmakers from 70s got fine university jobs?

Political building isn't house. And by US laws these are all freedom of speech (gallows and similar) or feds starting riot to cause justification for future crackdown.

It's well known police tactic is put agents in civilian clothing which try to start riot which justifies state to send message by eliminating all dissident.

Basic incentive analysis tell you why. State is involuntary association. In voluntary ones when people don't agree they go each on their own way.

Horewer, when people and ruling class disagree, people can replace ruling and send them to jail, exile or another world. Therefore, since situation can easily become fight to death, ruling class has every incentive to crush dissent by any means possible.

Only issue is making crushing aceeptable to rest of population. They don't want for crackdown to start actual civil war.



Because they right. Tell me now how Democrats has lost 20M voters in 2024 which they had in 2020. And Twitter is full of methods done to cheat in elections.

Why USA doesn't have mandatory voter ID laws? Because they make voting by illegals easy.

Found claims on Twitter by foreign citizens that they have voted in US election. This shouldn't be possible.

This was political prosecution. Federales have charged anyone even remotetly connected with "riot". I know case of Pat Stedman who was send to jail for taking him everyday regular walk.

My post was about certification process done in Congress.

And each state certificating itself means nothing. Electoral college exist as method of stopping cheating (not only reason). So if one state decides to cheat, they will off course certify themselves. So other states must be able to check on potential cheater.

By the way, in 2020 Texas and some other state have started suit against Pennyslvania (I think) for electoral cheating. Supreme Court didn't even started court process. Why? Would starting discovery find irregularities?


And CIA is forbidden from spying Americans. So they just ask rest of 5 Eyes to do spying for them.

Bureaucrat's thinking. Everything is legal since we done everything according to procedure/law, while actually breaking spirit of law.

None of them were elites when starting out. They have incentive to use economical way of getting rich because stealing is way to dangerous.

It's simple @Maia. Use economic/incentive analysis. Being on top of social hierarchy is very desirable, so these guys don't have any reason to allow downward mobility (only mobility available to them, this makes them favour no social mobility). Which means any method where they stay on top is good.

To get on top you must be smart and they all know they could be replaced when they get old. So better to fix downward mobility now.

Also, why earn money when state can provide you with more risk-free money than any market?


Count me sceptical.

Auto industry is always politically sensintive and no way EU/USA will allow Chinese to destroy theirs. If tariffs aren't enough they will make Chinese to open factories in EU/USA and use high cost local manufacturing.


Nobody complains about value add if it costs more. They complain for getting same for more money.


These are examples of breaking property rights.

EDIT: Spelling

This was an exceptional and well argued post. I know we do not always agree on things but I am so happy that you're here!

 

[Maia]

President Trump is ending the electric car mandates and that alone will end the market for overpriced and poorly executed golf carts that masquerade as practical transportation.

The US auto makers have already announced that they will continue electric vehicle development. They are the experts, Trump is not the expert. Just now in JAN 2025 a new charging network provider IONNA has just launched in the US. IONNA is backed by BMW, General Motors, Honda, Hyundai, KAI, Mercedes-Benz, Stellantis (Chrysler, Fiat Peugeot/Citröen) and Toyota. Get the idea? VW has it's own Electrify America company.

Sales will slow down, but it is not going to change the outcome.

Poorly executed? A Model S plaid can out accelerate anything this side of a Bugatti Chiron, and the packing of an electric vehicle is so superior that one can have a Lucid Gravity with the dimensions of a mid size SUV, that has the same interior space as a Suburban. The Lucid electric motor can fit in a carry on luggage, and I can lift the motor by myself, a 430hp with an efficiency of 98%, and it is not just the motor, it is the differential, transmission, and power control computer.....

We had the same discussion with the introduction of the automobile. Many people were skeptical, and thought that the horse would win.