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January 20th 2025 - Donald Trump is BACK!

I think that Donald has bad intel about the Russian manpower losses and the vulnerability of its economy.

This not a discussion, simply a datapoint.
If your opinion differs, just state what you believe is true and we will leave it there.
 
Parts for modern vehicles are so complex (particularly electronics) they have to be made in a specialist factory. Once the factory stops making that model, and the stockpiles of spare parts run out, no more repairs can be made.
But custom fabrication is also starting to become more sophisticated, including for circuit boards.

You just talk about electricity distribution. It's not distribution that is the problem - that's solvable as you describe. It's production that is the limiting factor. Without a lot more nuclear and coal power stations there simply is not enough electricity available to change the fleet over to electricity.

When I fly over the word, I see so many roofs WITH OUT solar panels. So much untapped potential.


And now we've reached a point with electric vehicles, that they are so complicated that no one knows how to fix them at all.
Not really, an electric car has less then half the parts of a conventional ICE vehicle.
Why which measures? ICE don't start suddenly on fire.

Per 1000 vehicles they burn more.

Because they right. Tell me now how Democrats have lost 20M voters in 2024 which they had in 2020.

Because 20 Million people thought that Biden sucked. I am not sure what your point is in terms of % swing this election was no where near a record, and it was not even close to the landslide that Reagan managed.

And Twitter is full of methods done to cheat in elections.
Twitter is like the worst of social media.
Why USA doesn't have mandatory voter ID laws? Because they make voting by illegals easy.

Both the left and the right in the US are against IDs for different reasons but both based on paranoia. The US is also one of the only countries in the world that has no passport exit control (Canada is the only other one I know of) for similar reasons. Which is completely insane, you should be checking that everyone leaves after the 90 days, or whatever your term is.

Found claims on Twitter by foreign citizens that they have voted in US election. This shouldn't be possible.

Twitter is not a source of information, it is a source where every idiot can broadcast their conspiracy theories to the world. And people believe them.
My post was about certification process done in Congress.

And what was contested was voted on, and overturned. One objection was not voted on as no Senator supported it.

And each state certificating itself means nothing. Electoral college exist as method of stopping cheating (not only reason). So if one state decides to cheat, they will off course certify themselves. So other states must be able to check on potential cheater.

There are literally people from both parties present to count the votes.....

I am very skeptical of this claim. China has thousands of EVs rotting in storage lots because they can’t sell. Communism is a stupid, wasteful, destructive, absolutely insane system and it will never triumph. Command economies can not work.

China is a curious hybrid state. Politically they are communist, but economically they are to a large extend practicing capitalism. China has 406 Billionaires if Wikipedia is correct, that does not happen in a communist economy.
 
Last guess was correct, well done.

The Dodge Brothers logo is a "Star of David" covering a globe. Which I find hilarious, it's exactly the sort of logo you'd make after being strictly lectured "just don't mention the Jewish conspiracy to take over the world, that's a secret" and it's then the only thing you can think of...
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So which one, a Dodge 30-35?
 
So which one, a Dodge 30-35?
No, because there is no such thing (Dodge Brothers never called any car the "model 30-35").
But yes, it's the car you're trying to refer to. Because it's the only car the brothers ever made.
The engine delivered 30-35 horsepower, I presume that's where that weird model reference came from.
But custom fabrication is also starting to become more sophisticated, including for circuit boards.
Sure, anything's possible to recreate with enough time and money. Do tell me one day how you get on restoring a 50-year-old Tesla, and if the result is really a restored "Tesla", or more of a hotrod (brand new running gear squeezed into an old Tesla shell). I expect that all "restorations" of such cars in future will really be hotrods.
Not really, an electric car has less then half the parts of a conventional ICE vehicle.
That all depends how you count. Did you count the batteries as one part, or thousands of cells? The computers as one part, or thousands of components? Numbers are deceiving. There are far more little things to break in an electric car than in an ICE vehicle, because the electronics are so much more complex, but thousands of those breakable bits are crammed into one box and called one "part".
When I fly over the word, I see so many roofs WITH OUT solar panels. So much untapped potential.
So we can all spend all day driving electric vehicles, and then use solar panels to charge them overnight? Are you really sure you've thought this through?

Solar panels are great as a portion of the grid, they're excellent for powering offices and factories that consume power in daytime, but what is needed for electric vehicles is baseload overnight production. That doesn't come from solar, and charging one set of massive batteries all day only to dump that power into a second set of electric vehicle batteries overnight would be incredibly inefficient and prohibitively expensive on a grid scale.
 
But custom fabrication is also starting to become more sophisticated, including for circuit boards.
This does nothing for car repair since circuit design is intellectual property, so you forbidden to copy it directly.

And you can't just similar part since you can unknowinly miss needed functionality which you can't test mechanically.

When I fly over the word, I see so many roofs WITH OUT solar panels. So much untapped potential.
I see so much untapped potential in paying 20000$ per lifetime supply of 100 grams of uranium for my nuclear reactor fueling my fusion reaction fueling my anti-matter reactor for my flying house which I can't have since greens stopped development of proper energy tech.

If anybody ask why flying house, start with storms and hurricanes. Raise house above storm, wait for it to pass, then land.

Because 20 Million people thought that Biden sucked. I am not sure what your point is in terms of % swing this election was no where near a record, and it was not even close to the landslide that Reagan managed.
You need to better understand how cheating is done. Have democrat in charge of voting rolls be slacking in removing death people, get ballots for death people and then make sure death people vote by mail.

We are talking about team based effort worth millions for success per city, nevermind country or state. Like if you win you can send trillion of dollars for yourself and your friends on federal level.

We are talking about enough money to bribe all necessary people. You don't need to send them cash. Promise judge overlooking elections extra budget which will be spend on "very needed amenities" for job or "salary raise" to make corruption less tempting for judges.

Twitter is like the worst of social media.
It's best social media. I never have bad experiences with social media. I don't fucking understand people who had them. Just block crazy people and curate feed. Don't allow algo to send you slop, make it work for you.

Both the left and the right in the US are against IDs for different reasons but both based on paranoia. The US is also one of the only countries in the world that has no passport exit control (Canada is the only other one I know of) for similar reasons. Which is completely insane, you should be checking that everyone leaves after the 90 days, or whatever your term is.
I know nobody who on right is against voter id laws. People usually mention Florida. Florida fixed voting, now Republicans will certainly win.

Twitter is not a source of information, it is a source where every idiot can broadcast their conspiracy theories to the world. And people believe them.
Only problem is what words is persistence of nickname. So what happens of Twitter is name as on every forum (this included). Nicknames develop reputations, so stih takes producers will get throw out.

In fact, best advantage of pseudoanonimity (which nicknames provide) is less discrimination based on look, age, gender since you just don't know it. You must judge people based on their work.

And anyone supporting usage of real ID on social media is number one enemy of freedom. Try to find out why.

And what was contested was voted on, and overturned. One objection was not voted on as no Senator supported it.
C'mon. You still haven't figured out that politicians are most blackmailed people in world.

Key reason we have representative democracy is to enable political blackmail.

What most don't know is that democracy in West is homegrown. It wasn't imported by copying Greeks or Romans. There were elections for kings, in cities. All direct.

Key reason we lost that is because people want their representative to be only mouthpiece. City sends message to king and messenger is only allowed to receive answer. Then citizens together will deliberate before sending another message to king.

Whole method provides sort of unity and makes it way harder to threathen force, since you have to threathen whole city at once.

Horewer, kings wanted for cities to send representatives with full powers. Full powes meaning they can sign off any decision which citizens must respect. King's argument was in essence: I have very big cannons.

Why? Well if city representative is against new taxes, make him fly over stairs by accident and sign tax increase. And now citizens have given consent for more taxes since they gave such rights for their representative.

That's how population votes against immigration/more taxes/IMF and gets all three. Just watch all scheaming how to get NATO troops in Ukraine despite practically zero support for that by population.

There are literally people from both parties present to count the votes.....
Not a problem for creative people. Have eletronic voting and make software change what voter has selected.

You lack any creativity in how to do voting cheating.

China is a curious hybrid state. Politically they are communist, but economically they are to a large extend practicing capitalism. China has 406 Billionaires if Wikipedia is correct, that does not happen in a communist economy.
Best example of people having problem with essence/form distinction in real life.

China has form of commies dictatorship, but it's not.

And, @Maia, all dictatorships have billionaires. Mostly they are politicians and their best friends. What is specific for China is that they have billionaires based on market, not politics.
 
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China is a curious hybrid state. Politically they are communist, but economically they are to a large extend practicing capitalism. China has 406 Billionaires if Wikipedia is correct, that does not happen in a communist economy.
I’m sorry this simply isn’t true. China’s economy is wholly dictated by corrupt party apparatchiks. They absolutely could have that many billionaires with a debased currency that is distributed deliberately and at will.
 
Sure, anything's possible to recreate with enough time and money. Do tell me one day how you get on restoring a 50-year-old Tesla, and if the result is really a restored "Tesla", or more of a hotrod (brand new running gear squeezed into an old Tesla shell). I expect that all "restorations" of such cars in future will really be hotrods.

I expect that it is no where near the difficulty of A level historic cars, such as the 1920 Dussenbergs, late 1950s US cars (which had things many people think of as "modern" such as auto dimming headlights, auto climate control (were you select the temperature and a extremely complex system creates the desired temperature)) they even had curious things such as auto record players, where if one record is finished, an extremely complex system loads the next one. Or the BMW V12s with individual throttle bodies for each cylinder, or the BMW inline 6 engines built from magnesium alloy, which, since magnesium is porous, are sealed with wax. And people think a leaking pan gasket is annoying?

That all depends how you count. Did you count the batteries as one part, or thousands of cells? The computers as one part, or thousands of components? Numbers are deceiving. There are far more little things to break in an electric car than in an ICE vehicle, because the electronics are so much more complex, but thousands of those breakable bits are crammed into one box and called one "part".
Good question since they were talking about both moving and non moving parts, I presume cells would be counted separate.


So we can all spend all day driving electric vehicles, and then use solar panels to charge them overnight? Are you really sure you've thought this through?

This is a very fascinating topic!

First of all the, the cars often get charged at the workplace, in fact in both the USA and Germany, every employee of ours can charge their electric car for free. Germany was a bit annoying since we got slapped with a fine for not metering this, and collecting taxes. It was decided that the electricity we were handing out was a "benefit" and we needed to collect taxes on that. It cost an annoying amount of money so that every employee now has an RFID card, to log what they are using, and send it to accounting software. My dad asked if we should also tax the toilet paper usage.


Now we get to the interesting part, charging at home!

In both the US and in Germany we use a similar structure, both have a battery buffer, though were the cars to plug in at night, they would chug it empty if allowed. As a bases, the house only charges the electric cars to 30%, since that it what we need for daily driving locally. If there is excess solar energy available, the house allows the electric cars to charge up to 80%, we generally do not charge above 80 for battery longevity. If needed, a simple click in on an app, and all programming is thrown out, and maximum charging is established to 100%.

Storing. There is not a silver bullet, different strategies will need to be employed.Excess energy in Germany is shipped to Scandinavia and stored as hydroelectricity by pumping it into reservoirs.

There is a company from Berlin which offers a system that uses excess solar energy and uses it to split water into H2 and O2, and if needed it can be turned back into electricity via a fuel cell, or burned directly in a furnace to heat the house. We did not buy it, since the quote was for €86,000 plus my parents were not keen on hydrogen tanks on the property.

Solar towers. One can concentrate the heat of the sun to melt salt, this is stored and at night the heat is used to generate steam to power a good old turbine. They look cool:

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This does nothing for car repair since circuit design is intellectual property, so you forbidden to copy it directly.

And you can't just similar part since you can unknowinly miss needed functionality which you can't test mechanically.

That is where the EU Right to Repair legislation will come in handy.

Almost any car part you can get as non OEM parts. The question is if you should. A lot will be junk. However Bosch, for example, offers many parts both as branded OEM parts, and the same part as a generic Bosch branded part. I am not sure if Bosch offers an ECU as a non OEM part, would be interesting since 95% of all cars built on the planet today, use Bosch ECUs.

Do you know what the most difficult parts of a car are to buy as replacements? Body parts such as fenders, and doors. In both the USA, and in the EU, the design of a car is considered art, like a painting, or a sculpture and hence it is protected not by patents, but by copy right.

I’m sorry this simply isn’t true. China’s economy is wholly dictated by corrupt party apparatchiks. They absolutely could have that many billionaires with a debased currency that is distributed deliberately and at will.

Every country does that to some extent. Airbus won the tanker contract, since the USAF determined it was the best solution for US war fighters. Washington twisted their arm to throw out the contract, and to tweak the requirements so that Boeing would get it, and on the topic of Boeing, Boeing is charging NASA doubele the price for Starliner compared to Dragon, hence NASA told them to get lost, however again Washington forced NASA to also give Boeing a contract, officially because Washington wanted a backup solution, unofficially of course this was a type of corruption. And the worst part of it is that the damm thing does not even work.[/img]
 
I expect that it is no where near the difficulty of A level historic cars, such as the 1920 Dussenbergs, late 1950s US cars (which had things many people think of as "modern" such as auto dimming headlights, auto climate control (were you select the temperature and a extremely complex system creates the desired temperature)) they even had curious things such as auto record players, where if one record is finished, an extremely complex system loads the next one. Or the BMW V12s with individual throttle bodies for each cylinder, or the BMW inline 6 engines built from magnesium alloy, which, since magnesium is porous, are sealed with wax. And people think a leaking pan gasket is annoying?
With all due respect @Maia, you speak like someone who has read and talked a lot about cars, but never actually had to repair an old one by yourself. You would be wise to actually listen and learn from those of us who have.
First of all the, the cars often get charged at the workplace, in fact in both the USA and Germany, every employee of ours can charge their electric car for free. Germany was a bit annoying since we got slapped with a fine for not metering this, and collecting taxes. It was decided that the electricity we were handing out was a "benefit" and we needed to collect taxes on that. It cost an annoying amount of money so that every employee now has an RFID card, to log what they are using, and send it to accounting software. My dad asked if we should also tax the toilet paper usage.
Great idea on sunny days. But as the system has to work on cloudy days also, your employees are actually charging their cars at your workplace from grid electricity much of the time, from coal / gas / nuclear / hydro depending where the factory is located. So the solar panels are still just a supplement, not reliable baseload.
Now we get to the interesting part, charging at home!

In both the US and in Germany we use a similar structure, both have a battery buffer, though were the cars to plug in at night, they would chug it empty if allowed. As a bases, the house only charges the electric cars to 30%, since that it what we need for daily driving locally. If there is excess solar energy available, the house allows the electric cars to charge up to 80%, we generally do not charge above 80 for battery longevity. If needed, a simple click in on an app, and all programming is thrown out, and maximum charging is established to 100%.
Anything can be done on a limited scale for a small number of vehicles, by those who have the money for it. And it is your experience of this highly expensive system which gives you a distorted view of the whole topic. This sort of thing is a great gimmick for a wealthy person's mansion, but simply is not practical at a national level, for several reasons.

First, consider that in this discussion you were telling @The Revolting Man that it is possible to get an electric vehicle that would drive as far as he needs to every day. If he was to get one though, he would need to charge it to 100% every night. And the same goes for every tradesperson or rural dweller. Even your parents' system cannot do that (reliably fully charge a long-range electric car from solar every single night). So it's a niche idea that only works for certain people.

Secondly, do some maths on the total cost of that system - solar panels, control system, house battery with sufficient excess capacity to at least partially charge electric cars, installation price for all the above, plus the cost of the electric car itself - and compare that to the cost of a petrol or diesel vehicle which needs none of that infrastructure. How many people or regular businesses (e.g. a plumber) can afford it?

Then also pick a likely annual distance driven (say 20,000 km), assume 10L/100km fuel consumption and a 5-year ownership period, and spread that capital and operating cost to work out c/km for that first 100,000km. Which is more affordable to run? Note that to do this you will either have to oversize the solar system to provide 100% of the car's power every day even when the weather is poor, or estimate what proportion will come from solar and account for grid prices for the remainder.

Then consider total life cycle environmental impact. Try to find out the actual total life cycle environmental impact of manufacturing all those solar panels, batteries and so forth, spread THAT over the travel distance, and work out which of the two options has more environmental impact per km. If you can't find all the information needed for that, just use cost as a proxy for environmental impact, assume the more expensive option has more environmental impact, which is obviously crude but will get you in the right ballpark. The cost of a thing tends to roughly correspond to the resource usage in manufacturing it - an expensive thing used more raw materials and/or more fossil fuels to produce than a cheap thing, so the environmental impact of the construction was higher.

Be very careful to include everything that goes into each option, most mistakes in life cycle analyses are from just forgetting that a component exists or has an environmental impact - and those mistakes usually come from the fact that it's actually really hard to think of all the things that need to be taken into account. This is the beauty of considering price as a proxy for environmental impact - it automatically includes everything, even the things you don't even know about. When doing this you need to remove subsidies and consider the actual total cost. The other advantage is that it's really easy, you can probably do it on the back of an envelope from information that is readily available - I'm not setting you an impossible assignment here.

Have fun!
 
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Twitter is not a source of information, it is a source where every idiot can broadcast their conspiracy theories to the world. And people believe them.
That makes as much sense as saying:
"Paper is not a source of information, it is a source where every idiot can broadcast their conspiracy theories to the world. And people believe them."
Think about it.
 
 
Twitter is not a source for valid information*
Again: "Paper is not a source for valid information".

Twitter / X is not a "source" of anything. It's a place people communicate stuff. Some people communicate true things there, some people write crap. Just like Facebook, books, newspapers, websites, youtube, people shouting in the street, toilet graffiti, radio, magazines, telephones, this forum...

In all cases the "source" is the speaker, not the medium they use to communicate what they say. And the validity of the information comes down to the information itself, and has nothing to do with the medium either. To dismiss everything communicated through X because you don't like the company or its owner would be as illogical as to dismiss communicated over the telephone because you don't like your phone company.
 
Again: "Paper is not a source for valid information".

Twitter / X is not a "source" of anything. It's a place people communicate stuff. Some people communicate true things there, some people write crap. Just like Facebook, books, newspapers, websites, youtube, people shouting in the street, toilet graffiti, radio, magazines, telephones, this forum...

In all cases the "source" is the speaker, not the medium they use to communicate what they say. And the validity of the information comes down to the information itself, and has nothing to do with the medium either. To dismiss everything communicated through X because you don't like the company or its owner would be as illogical as to dismiss communicated over the telephone because you don't like your phone company.
The conspiracy theorist often cite it as their own "source of credible information."
To dismiss everything communicated through X because you don't like the company or its owner would be as illogical
I don't recall saying that? I find Elon Musk quite likable.
 
Twitter is not a source of information

Nor is NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, NPR, PBS, Bluesky, Facebook, Instagram, or etc. These are unified sources of opinion.

That said, Twitter/X is at least a source of dissenting opinion.
 
Then also pick a likely annual distance driven (say 20,000 km), assume 10L/100km fuel consumption and a 5-year ownership period, and spread that capital and operating cost to work out c/km for that first 100,000km. Which is more affordable to run? Note that to do this you will either have to oversize the solar system to provide 100% of the car's power every day even when the weather is poor, or estimate what proportion will come from solar and account for grid prices for the remainder.

It also matters how much time is spent charging a vehicle per every km driven.

The guy who blew up a Tesla Cybertruck in Las Vegas recently drove it from Denver to Las Vegas and he had to stop eight times to charge it.

That's about 40 minutes at every stop. Or a total of 320 minutes (5 hours and 20 minutes) of charging time versus say two stops of maybe ten minutes each to refuel an ICE truck traveling the same trip.

Seems the Cybertruck charges to 80% at one rate and much slower to charge to 100% so most owners only ever charge to 80%. Which seems a stupid limitation.

What is your time worth to you? Is it worth an additional five hours on a long trip? On every long trip?

This illustrates the dilemma faced by @The Revolting Man when he talks about the impracticality of driving an electric truck for work that involves lots of driving.

Also, over the road drivers (OTR) do not get paid while their trucks are fueling or recharging. They only get paid when the truck is moving.

The electric truck paradigm is then going to rob these men by requiring them to attend their employer's truck while it charges and then not get paid for it while they do it.
 
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Solar panels are a 'special purpose' solution. I am 100% off-grid, in one of the highest insolation places on the planet, and it works well for our application. And it beats paying tens of thousands to run a power line I don't want anywhere on my property anyway.

EVs are a far MORE limited, less economic, and WAY less "environmentally-friendly" solution. The best application is arguably an EV moped; other implementations are correspondingly less economically-viable, as the weight increases.

And, as a replacement for ICE vehicles (personal cars in 95% of applications, never MIND OTR trucking) they're a bonafide idiocy. There is not even remotely enough grid generation capacity to support the less-than-40% adoption in Kalifornia now (they're even talking about trying to SUCK power FROM EV batteries to stabilize the system!) - much less what is claimed. Bottom line: It's not only about 'control' - there was never an intent for most people to continue to own their own cars. EVs are a mechanism to price them out.
 
With all due respect @Maia, you speak like someone who has read and talked a lot about cars, but never actually had to repair an old one by yourself. You would be wise to actually listen and learn from those of us who have.

By myself, no. Enough that I appreciate post OBD 2 cars. Granted the information can be a challenge to interpret, and a low voltage situation seems to cause all modules to scream in panic, but generally one can quite quickly parse the information, and answer the question "why is the engine losing power?" with "Ohhh, that's why." Btw, on an electric car, every single battery cell reports in. I was sent as a chore, or more of an assessment perhaps, to figure out why an engine was losing power on a pre-diagnostic car. Could be a vacuum leak, could be an injector, could be a clogged cat, could be a defective fuel pump, could be a clogged fuel intake, or a line, or a myriad of other things. And of course it is the last thing one checks that is the problem.

Great idea on sunny days. But as the system has to work on cloudy days also, your employees are actually charging their cars at your workplace from grid electricity much of the time, from coal / gas / nuclear / hydro depending where the factory is located. So the solar panels are still just a supplement, not reliable baseload.

It can if used in conjunction with wind, and hydro, and others. Germany is over 50% renewable. Also if helps if the Grid covers a large area. European Union is mostly one integrated grid from southern Spain to northern Finnland. If there is no sun in Germany, perhaps there is wind, or perhaps the sun is shinning in Spain, or there is wind power available in Scotland. One thing I would complain about Europe does not have 1 Million Volt transmission lines, like in China, so loses are greater. Annoying. Still that level of grid management is intriguing.


Anything can be done on a limited scale for a small number of vehicles, by those who have the money for it. And it is your experience of this highly expensive system which gives you a distorted view of the whole topic. This sort of thing is a great gimmick for a wealthy person's mansion, but simply is not practical at a national level, for several reasons.

It is worth point out that it is cheaper in Germany then in the USA. The difference being that it is more mainstream over there, and hence the cost is lower. Also open charge point protocol is not as prevalent in the USA.

First, consider that in this discussion you were telling @The Revolting Man that it is possible to get an electric vehicle that would drive as far as he needs to every day. If he was to get one though, he would need to charge it to 100% every night. And the same goes for every tradesperson or rural dweller. Even your parents' system cannot do that (reliably fully charge a long-range electric car from solar every single night). So it's a niche idea that only works for certain people.

No, but charging at night is generally better as most often there will be more renewables available.

The Revolting Man would need an 80 Amp charger, so that means a 100 Amp breaker, and unless it is a newer house, likely need a new panel, possibly grid connection upgrade.

Secondly, do some maths on the total cost of that system - solar panels, control system, house battery with sufficient excess capacity to at least partially charge electric cars, installation price for all the above, plus the cost of the electric car itself - and compare that to the cost of a petrol or diesel vehicle which needs none of that infrastructure. How many people or regular businesses (e.g. a plumber) can afford it?

Then also pick a likely annual distance driven (say 20,000 km), assume 10L/100km fuel consumption and a 5-year ownership period, and spread that capital and operating cost to work out c/km for that first 100,000km. Which is more affordable to run? Note that to do this you will either have to oversize the solar system to provide 100% of the car's power every day even when the weather is poor, or estimate what proportion will come from solar and account for grid prices for the remainder.

A lot of fleets are switching to electric, and it IS purely based on math. On average they will be more reliant on the grid though.

Then consider total life cycle environmental impact. Try to find out the actual total life cycle environmental impact of manufacturing all those solar panels, batteries and so forth, spread THAT over the travel distance, and work out which of the two options has more environmental impact per km. If you can't find all the information needed for that, just use cost as a proxy for environmental impact, assume the more expensive option has more environmental impact, which is obviously crude but will get you in the right ballpark. The cost of a thing tends to roughly correspond to the resource usage in manufacturing it - an expensive thing used more raw materials and/or more fossil fuels to produce than a cheap thing, so the environmental impact of the construction was higher.

Be very careful to include everything that goes into each option, most mistakes in life cycle analyses are from just forgetting that a component exists or has an environmental impact - and those mistakes usually come from the fact that it's actually really hard to think of all the things that need to be taken into account. This is the beauty of considering price as a proxy for environmental impact - it automatically includes everything, even the things you don't even know about. When doing this you need to remove subsidies and consider the actual total cost. The other advantage is that it's really easy, you can probably do it on the back of an envelope from information that is readily available - I'm not setting you an impossible assignment here.

Have fun!

Decently done, that is a full time job.

The best total life cycle analysis I have read was for the BMW i3. It was a book. They produced the carbon fiber for the vehicle in Washington state. For two reasons. 1) The knowledge that Boeing brought into the area in the field of carbon fiber and 2) Washington state had untapped hydro electric reserves, and they could run the entire carbon fiber production of that. Of course , they took into account the emissions of shipping everything by railroad to.... I think it was Montreal, and then shipping it to Germany.



That makes as much sense as saying:
"Paper is not a source of information, it is a source where every idiot can broadcast their conspiracy theories to the world. And people believe them."
Think about it.

Well..... I think on average I like people better who read books, generally they have more peaceful, enlightened, quite frankly better, all my subjective opinion of course. Also, I think old school forums, such as this one, are better then most social media, as the discussions are more in depth. On Twitter almost everything is out of context in a short tweet, yet people think they have read a full thesis.

In general twitter has in my opinion the most unlikable people.


It also matters how much time is spent charging a vehicle per every km driven.

The guy who blew up a Tesla Cybertruck in Las Vegas recently drove it from Denver to Las Vegas and he had to stop eight times to charge it.

That's about 40 minutes at every stop. Or a total of 320 minutes (5 hours and 20 minutes) of charging time versus say two stops of maybe ten minutes each to refuel an ICE truck traveling the same trip.

Seems the Cybertruck charges to 80% at one rate and much slower to charge to 100% so most owners only ever charge to 80%. Which seems a stupid limitation.

What is your time worth to you? Is it worth an additional five hours on a long trip? On every long trip?

The numbers seem off, even if the Cybertruck is poor in that regard, inefficient, and Tesla built an 800V vehicle, yet its network is as of now, 400V, which means the Cybertruck needs to either split it's pack into two 400V packs, or use the inverters of it's motors to convert 400V to 800V. It cannot use 800V systems like Electrify America. Well, technically it can, they run the same communication language, and a NACS to CCS1 adapter exists, but Tesla has blocked that for..... reasons, although people have hacked it.

Still, it should not be that bad.
 
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