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Let’s play twister...

Pacman said:
If you don’t and Yah has to because you didn’t then those consequences will be far more harsh than what you would apply.
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And, if Yah brings consequences, He'll begin with the head.... and, they'll affect the whole family.
 
Pacman said:
Don’t give her the choice! Does she at least acknowledge that it’s your responsibility for spiritual leadership? Either way tell her that you are studying it together and that if she refuses she is violating Ephesians 5:24 and rebelling against Yah. Dude it’s not loving to allow her to continue in sin. It may very well be time to start applying consequences for her behavior. If you don’t and Yah has to because you didn’t then those consequences will be far more harsh than what you would apply.
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She believes I'm her physical head but I cannot be her spiritual head. She says the Life of Christ inside her has just as much authority as the Life within me. So when it comes to Spiritual matters I need to submit to her too. She uses the verse. Neither male or female, Greek or Jew.

I have explained to her that is in salvation only. Does not apply to authority..
 
yoderfamily said:
She believes I'm her physical head but I cannot be her spiritual head. She says the Life of Christ inside her has just as much authority as the Life within me. So when it comes to Spiritual matters I need to submit to her too. She uses the verse. Neither male or female, Greek or Jew.

I have explained to her that is in salvation only. Does not apply to authority..
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Correct.. clearly, there is still male and female....
 
yoderfamily said:
She believes I'm her physical head but I cannot be her spiritual head. She says the Life of Christ inside her has just as much authority as the Life within me. So when it comes to Spiritual matters I need to submit to her too. She uses the verse. Neither male or female, Greek or Jew.

I have explained to her that is in salvation only. Does not apply to authority..
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Yes that is in salvation only. We are on equal footing when it comes to value and the grace of God, but not in authority. She is in rebellion to the word of God. @Pacman and @PeteR are correct, as leader of your home, you must rein in that rebellion.
 
Pacman said:
I would say this privately if I could but your profile won’t allow me to start a pm...

It’s your job to teach that to her. Full stop. You will answer to the father one day for how you lead your household. It takes hard work. Trust me I know. Been there done that. But it is a noble goal and it’s your job.

Ephesians 5:26-27 KJV
[26] That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, [27] That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
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I can't figure out the pm thing for you either
 
Some years back Ali and I came to the crossroads where I required that she either allow me to be the husband (leader) or I was done with the sham of a pretend marriage. There was extreme misunderstanding and we spent two years separated while living in the same house, but we made it through and it was infinitely worth it.
It was very risky, though.
 
Using Strongs concordance, in Ephesians 5:21, the word fear is the word of interest in that verse, under the second definition. It seems to fit the context here.

Ephesians 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

If you insert Strongs definition it would read

5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the “reverence for one's husband”
of God.
 
yoderfamily said:
She burned it because it was "evil".
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Controlling and rebellious behavior. If a man did that they'd be calling him abusive.

If you don't take control things will only spin out of control worse.

yoderfamily said:
So when it comes to Spiritual matters I need to submit to her too. She uses the verse. Neither male or female, Greek or Jew.
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That is contradicted by 1 Cor 11 which establishes a clear hierarchy, and in the context of spiritual matters.

Not that you're likely to logically convince her. You can't talk your way out of these situations, only by asserting your authority.

Phillip said:
Using Strongs concordance, in Ephesians 5:21, the word fear is the word of interest in that verse, under the second definition. It seems to fit the context here.

Ephesians 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

If you insert Strongs definition it would read

5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the “reverence for one's husband”
of God.
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Phillip is on to something there. You could avoid the submission thing all together and ask her when she's going to start reverencing you (not respect but reverence). She's likely to find that even more distasteful. But there is no mutual submission to excuse and it would put the lie to her claim to be walking in Christ. Though she may try and claim it means respect and ignore you.
 
The other thing which contradicts the mutual submission fallacy is that only the woman is told to submit, and only the woman is told to submit to her husband 'as to the Lord'. That's pretty broad.

Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
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Does everything include spiritual matters?

For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body
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Is Christ our spiritual head or physical head. She claims Christ is her spiritual head. But Christ says you are her head in the same way He is of the church.
 
Pacman said:
Ah understood. But I’m confused how does she purpose to delineate between them...
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If anything goes against her conscience or interpretation she goes her own way. Moreover she says because she has the Holy Spirit too that gives her authority too.
 
yoderfamily said:
If anything goes against her conscience or interpretation she goes her own way. Moreover she says because she has the Holy Spirit too that gives her authority too.
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I would question what she thinks is the Holy Spirit, because the Holy Spirit convicts our hearts of sin, and disobedience to the commandments of God is sin. She is listening to a different spirit.
 
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