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What sort of testing have you been doing? In other words, what is your hypothesis, and how are you trying to disprove it?
One is simple test angular velocity you can do is, when you travel between say 34, or 50 plus north (or south ) latitudes to equatorial less than 3N or S latitudes. There should be a discernable difference in rotational angular velocity. Also the bible verses on firmament pose a big challenge. They even stumped Dr Dyno. Lol
To clarify and then formulate that as a testable hypothesis:
Are you talking about the shape of the earth, or the firmament?
Do you mean rotational angular velocity of the earth's surface, or the stars?
What would the rotational angular velocity be in at least one of those scenarios? (this is the hypothesis)
What test are you doing to measure this and confirm or disprove it?
I've discussed this elsewhere and at length.
Saving time here is a decent site that explains it.
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Everything You Need to Know About the Firmament in the Bible
The firmament in the Bible is a solid expanse formed by God on day two of creation to separate the waters of heaven from the waters below.
Not trying to prove or disprove any theory, for now, just questioning what we were officially taught in science, vs what we can personally test and make our own. Just testing for myself some of those things. Then antarctica, operations high jump and fishbowl then, that nagging antarctic treaty almost at the same time as the creation of NASA. What are powers trying to hide, happy feet guys?
We aren't even allowed to fly privately over it, questioning why. Talked with some airline pilots while hanging out and they told me some "crazy" stuff, off record. I dated one of them for a few months, she was a super sharp lady. Very curious one.. Unfortunately never wanted to share those things more openly. Guess it was a "normalcy" / reputation career issue. Different issue I guess.
I mostly set that aside, until I saw some things like the physics of angular velocity, didn't add up, also with very clear air, visibility ranges are sometimes way too far if telescope is used, what we can see doesn't comform with line of site calculators.
Another branch of experiments I suppose.
The biblical firmament is supposed to be solid, like looking glass, or a terrible cristal with waters above and the sun moon and stars inside firmament, He's throne on top, above His foot stool?
Started exploring a few hypothetical explanations. Anyone else curious about firmament and such creation things / anomalies?
Can You Fly to Antarctica? | Sheffield School of Aeronautics
Can you fly over Antarctica? Sheffield School of Aeronautics is here to answer this question for our readers. Visit our airline dispatch school to learn more.
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Antarctica is not considered a no-fly zone because it is not illegal to fly over Antarctica. However, there is no reason to fly over Antarctica because it is not in the way to any airports and because it is not an independent country. In fact, the only reason aircraft currently fly over Antarctica is for research purposes, military reasons, rescue operations, and scenic tourism.
Can You Fly to Antarctica? | Sheffield School of Aeronautics
Can you fly over Antarctica? Sheffield School of Aeronautics is here to answer this question for our readers. Visit our airline dispatch school to learn more.
Antarctica is not considered a no-fly zone because it is not illegal to fly over Antarctica. However, there is no reason to fly over Antarctica because it is not in the way to any airports and because it is not an independent country. In fact, the only reason aircraft currently fly over Antarctica is for research purposes, military reasons, rescue operations, and scenic
When you ask some airline pilots, they would say the (crossing mid antarctica ) flight plan won't be approved. So, "officially" is not forbidden but you just can't get a flight plan approved. It's supposed to be some unspoken military thing. If you can confidently talk with some south flying captains, they will say that off record. I suppose there is something we aren't supposed to see.Can You Fly to Antarctica? | Sheffield School of Aeronautics
Can you fly over Antarctica? Sheffield School of Aeronautics is here to answer this question for our readers. Visit our airline dispatch school to learn more.
Antarctica is not considered a no-fly zone because it is not illegal to fly over Antarctica. However, there is no reason to fly over Antarctica because it is not in the way to any airports and because it is not an independent country. In fact, the only reason aircraft currently fly over Antarctica is for research purposes, military reasons, rescue operations, and scenic tourism.
Those happy feet guys maybe can get enemy nations to all agree on the sanctity of antarctica? Admiral bird in the 50s, said a land as big as america was full of precious resources and all nations will take a big interest in it. Then it was shut down to freely explore, governed people can't just fly over or go with independent groups since 1962? Now you have to be sort of escorted, like in Cuba or north Korea.
I am curious..
Something on the bucket list.
Another conspiracy theory / fact is the Darien plug, after WW2 area was deconstructed to form a south / mid north gap. It used to have basic paths, cement bridged etc. Some bridges were demolished to create that buffer zone. People still live around there but severy isolated from regular roads and infrastructure.
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Crossing mid-Antarctica from where to where? Australia to South America or New Zealand to Africa?
The issue here is one of logistics as there are no private or public airfields on the continent so you cannot land to refuel unless you have permission from a military such as the US to land at their base, and very few aircraft can cover the approximate 6,800nm flight without refueling. Those aircraft capable of the flight (like a 747 or similar long distance aircraft) tend to be owned by companies that are unwilling to risk their $60m to $300m aircraft on a pleasure flight.
He is literally over our world. It is where He is and where Christ ascended to. No one can ascend up into heaven but the Son of Man.
“And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.”
John 8:23
“What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?”
John 6:62
“And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.”
John 3:13
In the modern world this is all rendered poetic, but this is actually the biblical worldview. No one can leave the firmament to reach the highest heaven, where God's habitation and throne is, besides the Son.
We talked about this recently if you'd like to see our discussion.
All History Before 1600's is "Questionable"
When we were little children we were being indoctrinated wherever we went. In the classrooms. From the television sets. Even on the highways looking at billboard advertisements. It's very hard for someone that has been indoctrinated since childhood to wake up to the truth. I'll give one example...
www.biblicalfamilies.org
See it but, cancel culture got to it and closed it? Weird..He is literally over our world. It is where He is and where Christ ascended to. No one can ascend up into heaven but the Son of Man.
“And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.”
John 8:23
“What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?”
John 6:62
“And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.”
John 3:13
In the modern world this is all rendered poetic, but this is actually the biblical worldview. No one can leave the firmament to reach the highest heaven, where God's habitation and throne is, besides the Son.
We talked about this recently if you'd like to see our discussion.
All History Before 1600's is "Questionable"
When we were little children we were being indoctrinated wherever we went. In the classrooms. From the television sets. Even on the highways looking at billboard advertisements. It's very hard for someone that has been indoctrinated since childhood to wake up to the truth. I'll give one example...
Flat earth talk is a gateway to biblical cosmology, which points directly to God being above our world. It has indeed been closed shut, and deemed too foolish to tread. It is as censored as any other topic they'd prefer you not to look into. Like vaccine hesitancy, 2020 election, LGBT/BLM slander. You name it. You'll find all the disinfo before you find the info. They've been trying to close the lid on it for a few years now.
If you look for the answers to our world in the bible, and the bible alone forsaking all that man has told you, it will be very easy for you too weed out the fakes.
But this takes a yearning for the truth so bad that you'd go against man's tradition and commonly held beliefs that they hold dear to their hearts.
At this stage, just want the truth I can personally test. Don't "trust the science" dogmas or NSA, NIH, NASA, narratives etc. I have been doing some simple independent personal testing and got more curious. My captain friend and inner circle may have been correct. Would that curiosity make me a "normalcy" heretic?
Wow, but truth matters, "my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge, because they rejected knowledge"
Hope people don't get scared, God is on top of things, not man.
Exactly, keep searching and testing if that's what you feel you need. Since the scriptures are true over man, they will indeed come out correct.
Before I came to Christ much like you, I tested the historical Jesus, along with all other religions and philosophies. I found the truth in Christ through rigorous testing. I now no longer need to test anything in the Bible, I now seek good doctrine and interpretation, and take every word in it as truth. These questions of our world came to me about 7 years ago. I was perplexed on which way to go, and told myself I'd settle for whatever the scriptures say.
Immediately in reading a much different cosmology than what I've been taught started jumping off the pages at me. That was when I knew I was onto something real and genuine. I trusted the scriptures in what it said, though it was contrary to everything I was taught.
Sacrilegious to some, but we should approach topic with respect to ones who are intimidated etc. I am willing to explore and test things. Not everyone wants to, some things are way too opposite to what we were programmed. Cognitive dissonance, normalcy bias, comfort zones etc. Hey, we are already walking in the wilderness with polygyny, why stop there. Lol Seek truth and test it well by the word and experiments help too.