Agree on time and place, but I certainly hope that the wedding night is not the only time a wife can wear that stuff!
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What do you consider modesty on a woman? What makes a woman appear NOT modest?
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Modesty is a principle and submission is a direct command so you’ve got the order right.
I would add that, while I may have higher standards for modesty than most, I don’t find the painting of a horn-like keratinous envelope all that problematic.
And it is right you do so; it is he you are to please. I don't speak to convince wives, but husbands.
But if he has not taught you on modest dress, it is good to ask and then do as he says.
Well, he never felt the need to teach me how to dress modestly as he trusts my judgement. I cover my body, but short of wearing a full burka, there is going to be some men out that may have a strange interest in what others consider non-sexual parts.
Modesty is absolutely required of women and I daresay men as well. A few red flags go off for me when the talk of " modesty" and " purity" are brought up. One needs to make sure they are not objectifying a woman ( or a man) the way the world does, albeit from a different angle. The other is hypocrisy amongst many of the proponents on this topic. I remember when I was a new Christian I had taken my son out to Burger King. It was one of the hottest days of the year, and a church youth group came in. The girls were in long sleeves and dresses/skirts, while the boys were in shorts, sleeveless shirts and a couple of them had on the sagging shorts, showing their underwear. All I could think of us was the sheer hypocrisy of the church on the issue.
Here, where we're interacting in text and images rather than in person, I think this shows up more in the difference between people's stated standards here and the sorts of images some people have posted in the patriarchy memes thread. One example from @rockfox is here, but I'm not singling him out as he's not the only one of us to slip into posting such content, and I'm sure I'm not innocent of it myself. It's just the clearest example that first comes to mind.
I'm not sure where you're going with that. You won't find my wife wearing a bikini on the beach. But it's not a meme about proper clothing in the same way the next meme down isn't intended to mean that unsubmissive women are hairy, white, and operate chainsaws.
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If the topic is modesty and someone is preaching modesty, but yet will post immodest pictures, it does speak of hypocrisy.
And as far as the meme is concerned, what Godly patriarchal husband would want wives like that?
Not going anywhere, just musing. The question is not how the author views it, but whether it looks hypocritical from the outside. I'm not really asking you @rockfox, you're just the example I have unfairly picked on just as an illustration, sorry. Trying to tease out @SerenaJoy82's comment, so asking her and anyone else looking from the outside and feeling brave enough to comment one way or the other.
I did not realize that polygyny permitted men to portray themselves as a whoremonger? Where does Scripture give a man the right to wear his pants hanging off his backside and exposing his underwear and his behind? Perhaps one needs to discern between positive and negative attention? I very much doubt a father would welcome a man to court his daughter dressed in that immodest manner.
Modesty starts from within a person, with humility. We are not to be a stumbling block to our weaker brother and sisters in Christ. This applies to dress as well and applies to men and women. If men think that women never look at them with lust, they are very naive.
I cannot count how many times I have seen both men and women rant about immodesty and yet post memes and photos of what they deem offensive. They have just not only portrayed themselves as hypocrites, but they have put a stumbling block up for their weaker brothers and sisters ( 1 Corinthians 8:9). We do not need to see a visual example of immodesty, most of us have already encountered it personally or have an idea of what it is. I am blessed that my husband trusts me to know right from and wrong regarding how I dress. If he does not like something on me or does not like how it fits or looks, he tells me and I do not buy/wear it. But he never has seen the need to micromanage what I wear as if I am a child. Many would be surprised to learn that I own a pair of gasp yoga pants! And my husband does not mind that I bought them.
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I have no issue with that. Even scammers can be saved. But that's another story.
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