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steve said:
Your sarcasm about something that you don’t believe in is really uncalled for.
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And I would think that promoting shamanism (the Bible doesn’t teach or even hint at teaching anything like what was just spewed out there) on a website called Biblical Families would be uncalled for, but apparently not.

The bride of Christ doesn’t go out and screw around with the spiritual realm in ways that are not prescribed by her Head. That is spiritual adultery.

That kind of thing is, straight up, dangerous.
 
Asforme&myhouse said:
And I would think that promoting shamanism (the Bible doesn’t teach or even hint at teaching anything like what was just spewed out there) on a website called Biblical Families would be uncalled for, but apparently not.

The bride of Christ doesn’t go out and screw around with the spiritual realm in ways that are not prescribed by her Head. That is spiritual adultery.

That kind of thing is, straight up, dangerous.
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Your understanding is not universally held.
Please accept that you do not have a corner on the Truth and everyone else is automatically wrong.
 
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Asforme&myhouse said:
Bible doesn’t teach or even hint at teaching anything like what was just spewed out there
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And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour. (Act 16:18)

And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. (Luk 10:17)

I'm not Paul, or one of the Seventy, but how is it that the Bible doesn't at least hint at such things? Yeshua did this much, and we're to emulate Him, no?
 
eye4them said:
And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour. (Act 16:18)

And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. (Luk 10:17)

I'm not Paul, or one of the Seventy, but how is it that the Bible doesn't at least hint at such things? Yeshua did this much, and we're to emulate Him, no?
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The formula you prescribed isn’t anything like the Biblical accounts you just alluded to. Which one of them performed the “self deliverance” you just described? Look man, I get that you don’t mean ill by what you posted. I spent over 11 years in a church that taught this kind of thing, and i was neck deep in it. But, these kinds of things are not things that christians are instructed to do. When I realized what i was in, I had to repent. Study scripture, in context, and you will realize that we shouldn’t be involved in the types of things taught in deliverance teaching.
 
Of those places where you see my suggestion/s as deviating from the Biblical account, which part/s exactly do you find objectionable?
 
Asforme&myhouse said:
The formula you prescribed isn’t anything like the Biblical accounts you just alluded to. Which one of them performed the “self deliverance” you just described? Look man, I get that you don’t mean ill by what you posted. I spent over 11 years in a church that taught this kind of thing, and i was neck deep in it. But, these kinds of things are not things that christians are instructed to do. When I realized what i was in, I had to repent. Study scripture, in context, and you will realize that we shouldn’t be involved in the types of things taught in deliverance teaching.
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There are lots and lots of things that Christians do that are wrong, but God looks at us as children and sees us from the attempts we make what is truly in our hearts in regards to our interactions in trying to care for others. Most of what is being done in things like this is just one person trying to help another person. I think that matters most to God. You keep trying to force relationships into some kind of text book manual that you think should be that sucks the life out of relationships. We have all had bad dealings with the church, but through it we learn to love God anyway. We should extend that to love each other in the way we know best and each of us takes what others do for what it is, trying.

If you don't like the mushy part about fellowship that doesn't fit a specific mold for you then don't do it. I find no problem in what was offered by @eye4them. I actually read it and considered my own life and were I might benefit from the thought. Lighten up man. I'm pretty sure with the attitudes around here if someone said something that was completely off the members of this forum would have pounced on him pretty hard. I'm good with what was said. I don't feel that we are being lead astray and I trust in God's power to save me more than your ability.

I'm going to pray for you in tongues.
 
Edward said:
If you could do me a small favor I would greatly appreciate it, please re-read my post I never said anything about him being King James only or that he should be King James only.

He said "the Bible is not infallible" meaning it's not perfect it's got errors and I adamantly disagree with that I believe we have the perfect word of Yahweh without error.
I mean if that's the case then the sodomite can say, well the Bible is wrong, it has errors and my lifestyle is not a sin, the Bible is in error on that subject.

Remember I did point out that others might use different translations, all I'm saying is make sure there is Harmony in the home whatever the the husband uses is what everyone else should use, that way everyone is on the same page and there is no confusion in the home, well my Bible says this, my Bible doesn't say that as a matter of fact my Bible didn't even have that verse.

For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
Matthew 18:11 KJV

Did you know this verse does not exist in the NIV or the NET? It could be that way in other versions, it's this kind of stuff that can cause confusion in the home.
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Fair enough! You are not KJO! Cool!

NIV includes a footnote saying that some manuscripts include the words in Luke 19:10, which does in fact say that the Son of man came to seek and to save the lost.
 
eye4them said:
Thanks for the support Cap.
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Yea, I may have been a little harsh. I apologise. But I understand what it feels like to have God bring one to a place where they feel love from Him and all one wants to do is express that love to others and the only thing they have is their life to compare it to and then that expression is beat down. And when others condem you for it because it doesn't fit the thier interpretation, I know what that feels like.
 
To be fair, he did say to chew the meat and spit out the bones. I think the main point of objection, might be what is termed "vain repetition".
 
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We need to stop bickering about doctrinal beliefs in someone’s thread about specific problems.
 
Asforme&myhouse said:
Study scripture, in context, and you will realize that we shouldn’t be involved in the types of things taught in deliverance teaching.
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Context is not king. If you can show me how Paul used context to determine how "muzzling not the ox" meant paying money to gospel ministers, or how he used context to determine that it was significant that the genealogy of Melchizedek was not recorded, that would be a good thing. Because it seems to me that the spiritual significance of bible verses has to be taken from the entire bible, taken as an integrated message, and reckoned only by the Holy Spirit, and that only interpreting each verse by its immediate and most obvious meaning is a severe mistake.
 
I don't know Sean's story, or how connected he is with other believers that live in his vicinity, nor whether he has been expelled from his church, but I can't help but wonder if this could be one of the repercussions that we face, when disconnected from fellow believers. I urge my anti-poly friends to not break off all fellowship from us, just because we don't see eye to eye on a particular belief, because we still need one another. I am fortunate to live near a fellow BFer and his wife, and I know that we will always have fellowship with one another, even if everyone in my church rejects me, but I also have been fostering relationships with fellow church members, that I hope to be able to still fellowship with, in the event I am asked to leave the church. Perhaps they have their preconceived notion of how evil polygamy supposedly is, and not all of them do, as I am learning, but I will want them to see me lead my family in a godly manner, in such a way that they will not be able to deny that some of those notions of how wrong polygamy is, are off base.
 
@Daniel DeLuca
It’s easy for you to talk about maintaining relationships. You aren’t far enough down this road for reality to bitchslap you.
Your advice is great for plenty of situations, but it comes off as kicking a man that is down in this particular thread.
 
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